Re: defsystem vs asdf

On Aug 16, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Sam Steingold wrote:

> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
> that has been posted to gmane.lisp.clocc.general as well.
>
>> * Marco Antoniotti <[email protected]> [2005-08-16 16:20:34 -0400]:
>>
>>>
>>> I would much rather have one de-facto standard SDF than two similar 
>>> but
>>> incompatible ones.
>>
>> Of course.  The right way to go ahead and do this is to write up a
>> spec first and then to go ahead and re-implement.
>
> I don't want to re-implement anything.
> I want to use one of the two existing facilities.

Well.  Neither does TRT IMO.  I just feel that MK:DEFSYSTEM despite its 
internal clunkiness is still better for me.

>
>> All in all I have been debating myself whether to switch to ASDF.
>
> that does it.
>
>> Somehow, I just haven't.  Plus, I have some semi-working code for
>> MK:DEFSYSTEM 5.0 that I have been using locally, but I am not
>> satisfied with that either and time is a tyrant.
>
> it appears that defsystem 3 is frozen and defsystem 4 is vaporware.
> now you are saying that you have v5?!

3.x is very stable.  Apart from your EVAL message and the GCL crowd who 
cannot get their head around the fact that ANSI got out in 1994 :) 
there have not been complaints recently.  And I know it is still been 
used, so it is not a lack of users that can account for all the silence 
about it.

v4 is effectively dead.

I have a v5 in my computer, but I have not released it at all.  I 
decided that I will never release anything until I have decent 
documentation for it.

The main features are a truly open dependency checking and traversal 
framework, plus the ability to compile C/C++/ Java/Fortran et al "out 
of the box".

Unfortunately I always find that there are some more fundamental things 
to do with CL than working on MK5.

Cheers

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