Fwd: common-lisp.net Mailing List Services in Need of Migration
David Cooper <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Dec 2025 09:54:39 -0500
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------=_Part_288562_111273663.1765983279902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [the following was mis-addressed to mailto:[email protected] =C2=A0= which does not exist - accidental mashup of mailto:[email protected] ..= =C2=A0 and clo-devel@...]=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Forwarded message =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From: David Cooper <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>, "pro-devel"<pro-devel= @common-lisp.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 09:52:37 -0500 Subject: common-lisp.net Mailing List Services in Need of Migration =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Forwarded message =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear All, The maintainers of common-lisp.net including these mailing lists are seekin= g a volunteer or volunteers to help migrate these @common-lisp.net mailing = lists from the legacy host (legacy.common-lisp.net) to a relatively new Het= zner host that we have established (64GB RAM, 12 CPU threads, AMD Ryzen 5 3= 600 model 113, hosted at Hetzner's Helsinki-1 data center). With the increa= sed capacity we are able to provide more self-contained services such as lo= cal CI runners which can be made available to projects (the recent revival = of http://gitlab.common-lisp.net/cl-docker-images/ =C2=A0is an example of a= project that can benefit from local runners as opposed to a far-flung netw= ork of runner machines in someone's house or in a closet at MIT etc. which = may or may not be maintained consistently over the years).=C2=A0 With help from a few individuals, notably Georgiy Tsukai, we have already m= igrated most other common-lisp.net services, including gitlab.common-lisp.n= et (that's been done almost a year now), as well as the common-lisp.net mai= n website, the *.common-lisp.dev project sites, and others.=C2=A0 cliki.net migration is currently being worked on by Vladmir Sedach (it's ap= parently affected by some recent issues with a Linux xml library, not conne= cted with CL directly, but that clike was depending on, that Vladimir has t= o update cliki to work around).=C2=A0 The major remaining task is to migrate mail services and update correspondi= ng MX records so that incoming @common-lisp.net mail will land at the new s= erver, to be handled for individuals by their ~/.forward (we still want to = support that for folks with shell accounts on the host), as well as fanning= out to these mailing lists @common.lisp.net.=C2=A0=C2=A0 So if anyone with experience in such matters would be willing to spend a bi= t of time & attention, maybe over the holidays, to look into our mail setup= and help with migration, that opportunity remains. When completed, this wi= ll allow Erik Huelsmann finally to let go of the legacy host, which some ti= me ago lost its ability to update the OS in-place (over the years, a hodgep= odge of different OS versions got cobbled together on that host by a string= of different admins, to where it's no longer amenable to normal debian apt= update/upgrade). So it's become a burden on Erik to keep that machine runn= ing at all.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The current common-lisp.net is running on a consistent fully updated Debian= GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) and, knock wood, remains update/upgradable including= its installed gitlab service stack, which we also keep updated every few w= eeks.=C2=A0 Incidentally we are also running a jitsi instance on there at m= eet.common-lisp.net, which any of you in the community is welcome to use fo= r CL related online meetings.=C2=A0 Anyone interested in giving some attention to this mailing list setup, plea= se advise. You can respond to this list, to me directly, or join IRC at lib= era.chat #common-lisp.net channel. And in any case,=C2=A0 Happy Holidays an= d Happy Common Lisping to all!=C2=A0 Thanks, =C2=A0Dave Cooper P.S. Genworks has been paying the Hetzner fees for the future host (booked = as donations to the Common Lisp Foundation, about $40/month). And Erik H is= still paying from his own pocket (or his company's coffers) for the legacy= one, which is a VM slice of a bigger Hetzner host that he maintains (our n= ew host is a physical machine, I believe). Anyway, at some point we do plan= to enable donations and offer sponsored links again, to decouple the futur= e viability of common-lisp.net services from the ongoing enthusiasm and sol= vency of any particular individual or entity (this will be done on principl= e, and not because I personally do not plan and hope to keep Genworks solve= nt and enthusiastic indefinitely into the future!).=C2=A0 Anyway just a hea= ds up that such donation opportunities will be upcoming as well. ------=_Part_288562_111273663.1765983279902 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head>= <meta content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"></h= ead><body ><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif= ; font-size: 10pt;"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"" data-sigid= =3D"4506931000000010003" data-zbluepencil-ignore=3D"true"><div>[the followi= ng was mis-addressed to <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:pro-devel@commo= n-lisp.net">[email protected]</a> which does not exist - accid= ental mashup of <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">pr= o@.</a>.. and clo-devel@...] <br><br></div></div><div><br= ></div><div class=3D"zmail_extra_hr" style=3D"border-top: 1px solid rgb(204= , 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-heigh= t: 0px;"><br></div><div class=3D"zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore=3D"tr= ue"><div><br></div><div id=3D"1">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Forwa= rded message =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>From: David Cooper <= ;[email protected]><br>To: "[email protected]"<clo-devel@co= mmon-lisp.net>, "pro-devel"<[email protected]><br>Date: We= d, 17 Dec 2025 09:52:37 -0500<br>Subject: common-lisp.net Mailing List Serv= ices in Need of Migration<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Forwarded= message =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br></div><div><br></div><bloc= kquote id=3D"blockquote_zmail" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><div><div style=3D"fo= nt-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt"><div><br= >Dear All,</div><div><br></div><div>The maintainers of common-lisp.net incl= uding these mailing lists are seeking a volunteer or volunteers to help mig= rate these @common-lisp.net mailing lists from the legacy host (legacy.comm= on-lisp.net) to a relatively new Hetzner host that we have established (64G= B RAM, 12 CPU threads, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 model 113, hosted at Hetzner's Hels= inki-1 data center). With the increased capacity we are able to provide mor= e self-contained services such as local CI runners which can be made availa= ble to projects (the recent revival of <a href=3D"http://gitlab.common-lisp= .net/cl-docker-images/" target=3D"_blank">gitlab.common-lisp.net/cl-docker-= images/</a> is an example of a project that can benefit from local run= ners as opposed to a far-flung network of runner machines in someone's hous= e or in a closet at MIT etc. which may or may not be maintained consistentl= y over the years). <br><br>With help from a few individuals, notably G= eorgiy Tsukai, we have already migrated most other common-lisp.net services= , including gitlab.common-lisp.net (that's been done almost a year now), as= well as the common-lisp.net main website, the *.common-lisp.dev project si= tes, and others. <br><br>cliki.net migration is currently being worked= on by Vladmir Sedach (it's apparently affected by some recent issues with = a Linux xml library, not connected with CL directly, but that clike was dep= ending on, that Vladimir has to update cliki to work around). </div><d= iv><br></div><div>The major remaining task is to migrate mail services and = update corresponding MX records so that incoming @common-lisp.net mail will= land at the new server, to be handled for individuals by their ~/.forward = (we still want to support that for folks with shell accounts on the host), = as well as fanning out to these mailing lists @common.lisp.net. = <br></div><div><br></div><div>So if anyone with experience in such matters = would be willing to spend a bit of time & attention, maybe over the hol= idays, to look into our mail setup and help with migration, that opportunit= y remains. When completed, this will allow Erik Huelsmann finally to let go= of the legacy host, which some time ago lost its ability to update the OS = in-place (over the years, a hodgepodge of different OS versions got cobbled= together on that host by a string of different admins, to where it's no lo= nger amenable to normal debian apt update/upgrade). So it's become a burden= on Erik to keep that machine running at all. <br></div><div><br= ></div><div>The current common-lisp.net is running on a consistent fully up= dated Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) and, knock wood, remains update/upgradab= le including its installed gitlab service stack, which we also keep updated= every few weeks. Incidentally we are also running a jitsi instance o= n there at meet.common-lisp.net, which any of you in the community is welco= me to use for CL related online meetings. <br></div><div><br></div><di= v>Anyone interested in giving some attention to this mailing list setup, pl= ease advise. You can respond to this list, to me directly, or join IRC at l= ibera.chat #common-lisp.net channel. And in any case, Happy Holidays = and Happy Common Lisping to all! <br><br></div><div><br>Thanks,</div><= div><br></div><div> Dave Cooper<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div= ><div>P.S. Genworks has been paying the Hetzner fees for the future host (b= ooked as donations to the Common Lisp Foundation, about $40/month). And Eri= k H is still paying from his own pocket (or his company's coffers) for the = legacy one, which is a VM slice of a bigger Hetzner host that he maintains = (our new host is a physical machine, I believe). Anyway, at some point we d= o plan to enable donations and offer sponsored links again, to decouple the= future viability of common-lisp.net services from the ongoing enthusiasm a= nd solvency of any particular individual or entity (this will be done on pr= inciple, and not because I personally do not plan and hope to keep Genworks= solvent and enthusiastic indefinitely into the future!). Anyway just= a heads up that such donation opportunities will be upcoming as well.<br><= br><br><br><br></div></div><br></div></blockquote></div></div><br></body></= html> ------=_Part_288562_111273663.1765983279902--