Re: New "genAI" zig scheme implementation

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Hi,

Keep in mind that this work is like a sort of ctrl-c/ctrl-v ,copy/paste of
existing code modified by transformers. There is no new idea, no creativity
happening.
There is already a lot of scheme implementations and the IA models have
been trained over those human implemented codes.

So as there exists already solutions human written
(guile,racket,chicken...) i suppose you do not even need to write a lot of
specifications to do that.

At contrary if you want to improve things, improve scheme, for example by
adding some infix notation support you have to tell it to the AI,becaus AI
(at the moment i'm writing) is not capable of creativity ,of inventing new
languages,etc

For me,creating Scheme+, this is not a problem, i'm not in competition with
an IA (even if i use it).

Best regards,

Damien

On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 7:45=E2=80=AFPM Nicolas Graves <[email protected]> =
wrote:

>
> I asked the author a few questions here, if you're intersted :
>
> https://github.com/orgs/kaappi/discussions/1303
>
> On 2026-07-07 19:23, Nicolas Graves wrote:
>
> >
> https://www.reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/1upm0sb/kaappi_yet_another_imple=
mentation/
> >
> > I don't know how to react to this in our ecosystem, it's almost entirel=
y
> > AI generated in 3 weeks total, and looks (untested) and claims to be
> > competitive with current scheme implementations, and Guix aside, has th=
e
> > breadth of a good part of the Guile ecosystem.
> >
> > I'm currently myself a (much much lighter) user, and want to stand by
> > the values of free software ; but I'm not sure what is the right way to
> > stand up for them anymore, in this context.
> >
> > I'm still excited to contribute to projects I value, but I lost my
> > vision / theory of action which guided how I spent my time in FOSS.  I
> > don't know how I should spend my time anymore.
> >
> > The conversation in Guix is GCD focussed and is already huge, this is a
> > Scheme implementation, but I wanted to share my uncertainties on how ou=
r
> > small but faithful ecosystem should navigate these troubled times.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Nicolas Graves
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Hi,=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Keep in mind that this w=
ork is like a sort of ctrl-c/ctrl-v ,copy/paste of existing code modified b=
y transformers. There is no new idea, no creativity happening.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">There is already a lot of s=
cheme implementations and the IA models have been trained over those human =
implemented codes.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:lar=
ge"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">So as =
there exists already solutions human written (guile,racket,chicken...) i su=
ppose you do not even need to write a lot of specifications to do that.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">At contrary if you want to i=
mprove things, improve scheme, for example by adding some infix notation su=
pport you have to tell it to the AI,becaus=C2=A0AI (at the moment i&#39;m w=
riting) is not capable of creativity ,of inventing new languages,etc</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">For me,creating Scheme+, this =
is not a problem, i&#39;m not in competition with an IA (even if i use it).=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Best regards,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Damien</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 7:45=E2=80=AFPM Nicolas Graves &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
I asked the author a few questions here, if you&#39;re intersted :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/orgs/kaappi/discussions/1303" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/orgs/kaappi/discussions/1303</a><b=
r>
<br>
On 2026-07-07 19:23, Nicolas Graves wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/1upm0sb/kaappi_yet=
_another_implementation/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.=
reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/1upm0sb/kaappi_yet_another_implementation/</a>=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t know how to react to this in our ecosystem, it&#39;s almos=
t entirely<br>
&gt; AI generated in 3 weeks total, and looks (untested) and claims to be<b=
r>
&gt; competitive with current scheme implementations, and Guix aside, has t=
he<br>
&gt; breadth of a good part of the Guile ecosystem.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m currently myself a (much much lighter) user, and want to stand=
 by<br>
&gt; the values of free software ; but I&#39;m not sure what is the right w=
ay to<br>
&gt; stand up for them anymore, in this context.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m still excited to contribute to projects I value, but I lost my=
<br>
&gt; vision / theory of action which guided how I spent my time in FOSS.=C2=
=A0 I<br>
&gt; don&#39;t know how I should spend my time anymore.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The conversation in Guix is GCD focussed and is already huge, this is =
a<br>
&gt; Scheme implementation, but I wanted to share my uncertainties on how o=
ur<br>
&gt; small but faithful ecosystem should navigate these troubled times.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Best regards,<br>
Nicolas Graves<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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