Re: Ilisp key binding changes (Option #2) - Please Review

"Clementson, Bill" <[email protected]> writes:

> > The new bindings are described in detail at:
> > http://home.attbi.com/~bc19191/ilisp-keybindings.htm#Summary%2
> > 0of%20New%20FSF%20Key%20Bindings-Option#2
> 
> I've received feedback on c.l.l. that people who use ilisp on
> terminals can't always enter shifed characters (e.g. "A", "B",
> etc). So I've decided to revise the proposed bindings (again) to
> eliminate all shifted characters.
> 
> Incidentally, does anyone have a list of what characters are ALWAYS
> present on terminals?

The GNU Emacs Manual (13th edition, printed version) I have here says:

  "On ASCII terminals, there are only 32 possible control
   characters. These are the control variants of letters and
   `@[]\^_'. In addition, the shift key is meaningless with control
   characters: C-a and C-A are the same character, and Emacs cannot
   distinguish them."

But let me re-iterate what someone else has said on c.l.l: Some of
these non-letter characters are very hard to type for localized
keyboards, e.g. on my German keyboard {[]}\|@ can only be reached by
pressing the right ALT key ("AltGr") together with another key. I
guess this is about the same for most European keyboard variants.

I have used US keyboards from time to time because they're much easier
to use for programming work but I currently use a German keyboard
again because I had to write much (German) documentation and thus made
heavy use of the umlauts.

So, I think you'll have to find a balance between the needs of
terminal users and the needs of users of localized keyboards. I,
personally, never use Emacs over a terminal line... :)

Thank you very very much for the enormous amount of work you put into
this. I'm one of those who use only a small percentage of what ILISP
has to offer and one of the reasons is that I haven't taken the time
yet to learn the keybindings. Your effort will be a very good reason
for me to finally do it!

Thanks,
Edi.


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