Re: ANNOUNCE: MCLIDE 1.0b
Robert Schaaf <[email protected]> Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:19:36 -0500
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Looks great, but it crashes on launch for me. > Unhandled exception 10 at 0x8fe010e3, context->regs at #xb040d39c > Exception occurred while executing foreign code On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Alexander Repenning wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:52 AM, peter wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Robert Schaaf <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I so agree. As I read it, at the moment on CLZ if you want say pure >> Common Lisp plus Cocoa, you are on your own. Clozure told me in early >> 09 that there would be a separation of the appropriate modules. But >> nothing's happened yet that I know of. As it is, you have either low >> level CL or the full Hemlock bolognese API, or we get our knitting >> needles out to build our own. > > There is funded work underway to build all this via XMLisp > >> >> My current dream machine would be MCLIDE + CLZ (CLOS) + Cocoa + OpenGL >> (without XML) + shrinkwrap delivery tool (appgen ... to Mac, PC and >> smart phone of course). The focus being on quality application >> deliverables for the open market (ie. not for s/w developers). > > > Free, open source cross platform Common Lisp including Cocoa, OpenGL, ... CLOS based interfaces, ... already here. Here is an icon editor example in CCL (image file loading, OpenGL rendering, down/up/moved/dragged mouse handlers, color pickers, alpha channels, selection management, ...): > > <Clozure CL64ScreenSnapz002.png> > > same code running in Windows XP with CCL win + Cocotron: > > > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > > > Sorry, you can run this with without touching XML but to define dynamic layouts you will have to write or generate xml. > > >> >> And the first communal task in hand would be to get onto the Cocoa >> port of Fred etc. > > Hemlock works reasonably well and now also works - still incomplete - on Windows. This is something that MCL never did and unfortunately MCLIDE never will. > >> >> But as all this is communal/collective effort, it's roll our sleeves >> up time, and follow Terje's superb lead IMHO. Every little bit helps. > > As I said, this is a funded effort. If it is not cross platform we cannot pay for it nor spend time on it. > > All the best, Alex > > >> _______________________________________________ >> info-mcl mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/info-mcl > > Prof. Alexander Repenning > > University of Colorado > Computer Science Department > Boulder, CO 80309-430 > > vCard: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~ralex/AlexanderRepenning.vcf > > > _______________________________________________ > info-mcl mailing list > [email protected] > http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/info-mcl _______________________________________________ info-mcl mailing list [email protected] http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/info-mcl