Re: [Ext]Re: hPronto issue

Mark J Strawcutter <[email protected]> Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:16:31 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.mail.cgatepro.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
If a customer is paying for support, then it is reasonable to expect 
some form of non-automated response when opening a support ticket.

Mark

On 1/11/2017 3:40 AM, Brian Turnbow wrote:
> Hi everyone ,
>
> The biggest gripe we have with the webmail is how html is handled.  (try
> replying to an html email to see how it comes out)
> The only way to get it working is to use a third party webmail externally
> ( roundcube for example).
> Hpronto has gotten much better as it has progressed and I know a lot of work
> has been done on the  realtime side.
> It can now be used as an integrated voice/im/email collaboration client.
> If just for email maybe it is not the best solution.
> They have also added the new search indexing in the fresh  skin which was a
> huge problem on the cgp skins on large mailboxes, so to say it is dead is
> excessive.
>
> There are a lot of people in communigate that really care about the solution
> and if you have problems with support I suggest giving a call to your sales
> rep.
> They can get in touch with the right people on the pronto team.
> If you opened a ticket  it does get tracked and placed into the work queue,
> and down the road they will send you an email saying it has been fixed in
> 6.1.x release...
> But maybe not give you any feedback before the fix.
> Nothing fixed == nothing to say
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CommuniGate Pro Discussions [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Terrence Koeman
>> Sent: mercoledì 11 gennaio 2017 00:04
>> To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions
>> Subject: Re: hPronto issue
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I don't use the default skins, so I can't help you with your specific
>> problem. But
>> before you dump CGP altogether, maybe check out the LookOut skin from
>> Niversoft (http://www.niversoft.com/products/cgskins/lookout). It's well-
>> supported.
>>
>> But you're not wrong, getting a bug fixed I CGP can take a long time, if
>> it
>> happens at all. Years ago I reported that CGP with --dropRoot would start
>> its
>> helpers as root (and then wasn't able to kill them later) as well as
>> create the first
>> logfile with owner root (if it didn't exist). After a year or two the
>> first half of the
>> bug got (silently) fixed, but CGP is still writing the logfile as root
>> today.
>>
>> Eventually I just cronned a script that fixes the owner on the log file,
>> and the
>> helper problem I also had worked around with a script: periodically check
>> if any
>> helpers were running as root and, if so, kill them so CGP would restart
>> them as
>> user cgatepro and force the right permissions on helper files with SUIDDIR
>> in the
>> kernel and the sticky bit on helper dirs.
>>
>> Also, CGP is still shipping with a bunch of trusted (by CGP) root CA
>> certificates
>> that are expired or were revoked because of compromise (and even one known
>> rogue CA). This issue I reported July 2015 (also on this list, see:
>> "Expired,
>> 1024bit, MD5 & a rogue/fake "Built-in trusted Certificate(s)" (root/CA
>> certs) in
>> CGP"). They removed a few from the distribution, but left most in place.
>> My
>> GlobalSign S/MIME certificate is still not trusted by CGP unless I
>> manually add
>> the CA.
>>
>> CGP is great when it all works, if it doesn't work you'll need to be
>> comfortable
>> working around the problem(s) yourself. For instance, by using a 3rd party
>> skin,
>> using opensmtpd and/or stunnel as a gateway between CGP and the internet
>> to
>> get more control over SSL/TLS sessions than the 6 or so options/toggles
>> CGP
>> offers, manually trash and rebuild the trusted CA list, etcetera.
>>
>> Those are the only two issues I reported, but I've encountered many more.
>> Unfortunately most seem FreeBSD-specific and from how the rc.d script is
>> written for FreeBSD (an abomination) combined with how long it took to
>> switch
>> the package format to pkgng, it's pretty clear to me their developers
>> don't
>> understand FreeBSD very well (nor test on it regularly). So it seems a
>> waste of
>> time.
>>
>> But to be honest, I have a few people that need Outlook, and like the
>> prospect
>> of running MS Exchange even less ;) In any case, don't expect too much
>> from
>> support or the list.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>    Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
>>       Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
>>
>> Please quote relevant replies.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CommuniGate Pro Discussions [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On Behalf Of [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:35 PM
>>> To: CommuniGate Pro Discussions <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: hPronto issue
>>>
>>> I am finally giving up and downgrading back to 6.1-8.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No discussion list response and no response to support ticket. Looks
>>> like CommuniGate is now dead!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Time to research for a new email server.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:50:42 -0500
>>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> 	Last issue I will bring up is that I do not like now having to go
>>> through multiple pages to see all my email. Used to be that you could
>>> just scroll and the additional messages would load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 	These two issues need to be fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 	On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:50:31 -0500
>>>
>>> 	[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> 		So I was able to just confirm that somewhere between 6.1-8
>> and
>>> 6.1-13/14, the hPronto interface has drastically changed in look and
>>> has broken the automatic next message option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		to confirm, I did the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		1. Downgraded 6.1-14 to 6.1-8
>>>
>>> 		2. Restarted CG
>>>
>>> 		3. Cleared browser cache
>>>
>>> 		4. Went to the hPronto login page (Here, the page was
>> completely
>>> different)
>>>
>>> 		5. Logged in, went to a message, deleted it, and was returned to
>> the
>>> list of email messages
>>>
>>> 		6. Updated CG to 6.1-14
>>>
>>> 		7. Restarted CG
>>>
>>> 		8. Cleared browser cache
>>>
>>> 		9. Went to the hPronto login page (Here, the page was
>> completely
>>> different again)
>>>
>>> 		10. Logged in, went to a message, deleted it, was taken to the
>> next
>>> message
>>>
>>> 		11. Confirmed that the option was correctly set
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		Noted another difference that now both the Preferences -->
>> General
>>> and login screens are showing the correct current version number
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		So can someone from Stalker take a look at this? The automatic
>>> message option was an irritation from the original roll out and now is
>>> broken.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:50:49 -0500
>>>
>>> 		[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> 			6.1.13.3390
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 			Here is what is in the strings.version.data file in
>>> /ope/CommuniGate/WebSkins/hPronto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 			cat strings.version.data
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 			ProductNameTag = "Pronto!";
>>>
>>> 			ProductVersionNumber = "6.1.14";
>>>
>>> 			ProductRevisionNumber = "3419";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 			On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:48:45 -0600
>>>
>>> 			Robert Opalko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 				What is shown in Preferences->General-
>>> Version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 				(Mine shows 6.1.13 on the splash screen but
>> 6.1.14 in the version
>>> page.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 				Regards,
>>>
>>> 				Robert Opalko
>>>
>>> 				City of Oxford
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 				On 12/30/2016 9:44 AM,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					Just following up...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					On my hPronto login screen I am still
>> seeing version 6.1.13 but
>>> the strings.version.data file is showing 6.1.14. I have cleared all my
>>> cache and used several different browsers and even reinstall the rpm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:03:51 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					So I just recently rebuilt my email server
>> on a new host. Old
>>> host
>>>
>>> 					was version 6.1-8 and new version was
>> 6.1-13 at install time and
>>> I
>>>
>>> 					just updated to 6.1-14. Both old and
>> new are CentOS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					To move over data, I backed up the
>> /var/CommuniGate directory
>>> from
>>>
>>> 					the original host and restored to the
>> new host. All ownership
>>>
>>> 					appears to be correct as does the
>> chmod values.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					My issue is with the hPronto
>> "Automatically Select Message"
>>>
>>> 					options. On the old host, turning this
>> off, viewing an email,
>>> then
>>>
>>> 					deleting the email, would take you back
>> to the email listing.
>>> Now,
>>>
>>> 					when I delete the email being viewed, it
>> opens up the next email.
>>>
>>> 					I have tried toggling the option several
>> times and applying the
>>>
>>> 					change in between but the issue still
>> exists.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					I do not know if this is a result of the
>> restore from the old
>>> host
>>>
>>> 					to a newer version or if it is an issue
>> intruced somewhere from
>>>
>>> 					version 6.1-8 to 6.1-13.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 					Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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