Re: Majordomo and gmail

I don't think you'll have to generate a new ID, just change the existing 
ID. At least that's they theory.

Karl

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Randall Belk wrote:

> Thanks Karl,
> I had actually come up with a similar solution that I'm implementing now.  I
> set up a auto-responder using procmail that will respond to any email that
> comes from the gmail domain.  Then I subscribe the address of the responder
> to all of the lists.  So when someone sends to a list, MJ will forward it to
> the responder, and if it is a gmail account, the responder will send
> an acknowledgment to the sender otherwise it will discard it.
>
> Your way actually looks simpler, I may play with it a little.  If I used
> your method I could avoid having to subscribe the responder to all of the
> lists which would be great.  I'm not clear on how to generate a new ID
> though.  I'll poke around and see what I can come up with.
>
> Randall
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Karl Pearson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> If the majordomo system is running on Linux, you could use procmail to
>> check for the header and then either remove or change the ID. A simple
>> recipe to do that might look something like:
>>
>> :0 fw
>> * ^From:.*@gmail.com
>> |sed -e 's/^IDHeader:[ ]*/IDHeader: [add text here] /'
>>
>> I'm not completely sure this would work, but it has as much a chance as
>> anything I can thing of.
>>
>> Hopefully,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Randall Belk wrote:
>>
>>  I maintain a majordomo server for an organization that recently switched
>>> to
>>> Google Apps for email.
>>> With their old email provider they would send an email to one of the lists
>>> and as the emails were sent out by the server they would get their own
>>> email
>>> back.  They came to depend on this "Feature" as confirmation that
>>> everything
>>> was working.
>>>
>>> Gmail looks at an incoming message and determines (by message-id I think)
>>> if
>>> this is a message that  originated within the destination account and
>>> drops
>>> it if it did.  The result is that everybody thinks the server isn't
>>> working
>>> when actually it is because they don't get a mail back.  I'm pretty sure
>>> gmail is keying on the id because I can change other parameters of the
>>> message (title, add footer, reply-to, etc) but the message still gets
>>> dropped because the id is the same.
>>>
>>> Has anyone dealt with this issue in the past?  After allot of thinking and
>>> searching I haven't come up with a nice solution.  I think mailman and
>>> maybe
>>> majordomo 2 both have an 'ack' feature, but I would hate to have to change
>>> systems entirely just to get it.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>>
>>>
>

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