Re: Had Mj2 Development stalled ... ?

Hi Marc,

   Yeah, people are still listening :) I use mj2 to run the OpenWebMail
Mailing Lists. I wrote a perl script to generate online archives instead of
using mj2's web archive - mine uses mhonarc here:

http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com/archive

and I also wrote a script that authenticates subscribers via the web and then
allows them to post to our mj2 lists using the same interface as php board,
including BBCode. This was for all the people who complained that the mailing
list was an old idea and we should have a forum. So subscribers can post and
read from the web, or receive email like a mailing list. I also did a lot of
work polishing up the pages mj2 spits out to make them integrated with the
OpenWebMail look, for example:

http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com/archive/mj_wwwusr.pl

So, yes, it is being used daily in the wild. Over a year now and few
complaints from me.

Regarding your other questions, since I'm working on OWM all the time I'm not
planning on doing mj2 dev work. I bet you could get a couple of perlmonks
(perlmonks.org) interested in at least polishing it up to make a release
though. Mj2 is kind of difficult to find. It gets lost in mj1's lore quite a
bit. If you don't know it exists and you don't know what to look for, typing
"perl mailing list" or other such searches don't readily disclose mj2.
Freshmeat might be able to help with that. I think improving the visibility
would be great for mj2 and perl.

Thanks,
Alex

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:51:09 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote
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> Right now, I'm in the middle of a discussion on one of the 
> postgresql.org mailing lists concerning switching to Mailman ... 
> quite frankly, my experiences with mailman have been a nightmare,
>  mainly because I *hate* their web ui *shiver*  And, I've fought so 
> long with Majordomo2 to get things "just right", I hate throwing out 
> all that hard work ...
> 
> But, some of the points brought up as to why to switch sound like 
> relatively valid concerns, so I'm wondering if anyone is even still 
> out there ... Jason?
> 
> 1. this list has been very quiet lately ... is anyone still out there?
> 
> 2. http://www.mj2.org - links broken to Jason's page at math.uh.edu
>                       - no list archives
>                       - /csf page has broken links to ancient 
> message archives                      - does it really still work 
> with Perl 5.005_03??
> 
> 3. has / is anyone looking into actually doing a "release" instead 
> of snapshots?
> 
> 4. Packages: I just checked FreeBSD ports, and there is no 
> Majordomo2 (since that    requires a release ... but still pushes 
> the old Majordomo1 (no wonder Mailman is making such headway) ... 
> are there any packges out there for other operating systems?
> 
> 5. Who actually uses it?  I find it hard to believe that I'm the 
> biggest users that I've ever heard of ... but if someone asks me who 
> is using it, I haven't got a clue .. some sort of section like that 
> on the web site would be nice ...
> 
> Personally, there isn't much about Majordomo2 that I could ever 
> complain about ... I love the web interface, I love the CLI ... I 
> hate both with Mailman, but Mailman has a stronger web page, online 
> documentation ... wiki / community ... a logo ...
> 
> How do go about improving our 'visibility'?  Does anyone care?
> 
> Steve Pritchard ... if its about resources, I can provide a VPS, 
> install a MediaWiki, etc ...
> 
> Anyone??
> 
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