Re: Getting MJ2 Running On Debian Sid

Marc Fournier <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:33:34 -0400
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Its still in use for @postgresql.org mailing lists too =85=20

On 2012-08-22, at 8:29 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's in daily use on one of my servers.  With a half a dozen active =
lists.
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> Robert
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> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:18 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
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>> >>>>> "SG" =3D=3D Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> writes:
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>> SG> But "Dead" is perhaps an overstatement for the software in its
>> SG> current condition (at least, as I see it), for the same reasons =
as
>> SG> Majordomo 1.94, especially if others decide to maintain it.
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>> Well, others have had the better part of a decade to do so.  Nobody =
but
>> me made a peep when the security issue was reported, and I had to
>> re-learn Perl just to fix it (and made a botch of it the first time).
>>=20
>> SG> It is, even now, a hell of a sight better than Mailman (excepting
>> SG> perhaps localisations).
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>> I won't disagree about mailman; I still curse it for not doing things
>> that Mj2 has done essentially forever.
>>=20
>> SG> It could just has easily have become unpopular or just very =
stable.
>>=20
>> For me the first nail in the coffin was when even the Perl people
>> wouldn't use it.  And that was back when it was actively developed.
>> Mailman was created entirely out of language bigotry (really, I was
>> there).
>>=20
>> Anyway, there's a core of something good in the Mj2 code.  I know =
there
>> is, that's why I still run it.  And indeed I've long since moved on.
>> But I would be happy to help in what limited capacity I can if =
someone
>> else wants to do stuff.  Of course, that's always been the case.  But
>> there's a lot that needs doing.
>>=20
>>  - J<


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It's in daily use on one of my servers.&nbsp; With a half a dozen active =
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Robert<br>
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On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:18 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
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<pre><font>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "SG" =3D=3D Sabahattin Gucukoglu &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; writes:</font>

<font>SG&gt; But "Dead" is perhaps an overstatement for the software in =
its</font>
<font>SG&gt; current condition (at least, as I see it), for the same =
reasons as</font>
<font>SG&gt; Majordomo 1.94, especially if others decide to maintain =
it.</font>

<font>Well, others have had the better part of a decade to do so.  =
Nobody but</font>
<font>me made a peep when the security issue was reported, and I had =
to</font>
<font>re-learn Perl just to fix it (and made a botch of it the first =
time).</font>

<font>SG&gt; It is, even now, a hell of a sight better than Mailman =
(excepting</font>
<font>SG&gt; perhaps localisations).</font>

<font>I won't disagree about mailman; I still curse it for not doing =
things</font>
<font>that Mj2 has done essentially forever.</font>

<font>SG&gt; It could just has easily have become unpopular or just very =
stable.</font>

<font>For me the first nail in the coffin was when even the Perl =
people</font>
<font>wouldn't use it.  And that was back when it was actively =
developed.</font>
<font>Mailman was created entirely out of language bigotry (really, I =
was</font>
<font>there).</font>

<font>Anyway, there's a core of something good in the Mj2 code.  I know =
there</font>
<font>is, that's why I still run it.  And indeed I've long since moved =
on.</font>
<font>But I would be happy to help in what limited capacity I can if =
someone</font>
<font>else wants to do stuff.  Of course, that's always been the case.  =
But</font>
<font>there's a lot that needs doing.</font>

<font> - J&lt;</font>
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