Re: Getting MJ2 Running On Debian Sid
Robert <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:29:19 -0400
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--=-HRxjY5vaNc5TOPhh8E9Q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's in daily use on one of my servers. With a half a dozen active lists. Robert On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:18 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "SG" == Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> writes: > > SG> But "Dead" is perhaps an overstatement for the software in its > SG> current condition (at least, as I see it), for the same reasons as > SG> Majordomo 1.94, especially if others decide to maintain it. > > Well, others have had the better part of a decade to do so. Nobody but > me made a peep when the security issue was reported, and I had to > re-learn Perl just to fix it (and made a botch of it the first time). > > SG> It is, even now, a hell of a sight better than Mailman (excepting > SG> perhaps localisations). > > I won't disagree about mailman; I still curse it for not doing things > that Mj2 has done essentially forever. > > SG> It could just has easily have become unpopular or just very stable. > > For me the first nail in the coffin was when even the Perl people > wouldn't use it. And that was back when it was actively developed. > Mailman was created entirely out of language bigotry (really, I was > there). > > Anyway, there's a core of something good in the Mj2 code. I know there > is, that's why I still run it. And indeed I've long since moved on. > But I would be happy to help in what limited capacity I can if someone > else wants to do stuff. Of course, that's always been the case. But > there's a lot that needs doing. > > - J< --=-HRxjY5vaNc5TOPhh8E9Q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.16.3"> </HEAD> <BODY> It's in daily use on one of my servers. With a half a dozen active lists.<BR> <BR> Robert<BR> <BR> <BR> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:18 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> <FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>>> "SG" == Sabahattin Gucukoglu <<A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>> writes:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> But "Dead" is perhaps an overstatement for the software in its</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> current condition (at least, as I see it), for the same reasons as</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> Majordomo 1.94, especially if others decide to maintain it.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Well, others have had the better part of a decade to do so. Nobody but</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">me made a peep when the security issue was reported, and I had to</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">re-learn Perl just to fix it (and made a botch of it the first time).</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> It is, even now, a hell of a sight better than Mailman (excepting</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> perhaps localisations).</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">I won't disagree about mailman; I still curse it for not doing things</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">that Mj2 has done essentially forever.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">SG> It could just has easily have become unpopular or just very stable.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">For me the first nail in the coffin was when even the Perl people</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">wouldn't use it. And that was back when it was actively developed.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Mailman was created entirely out of language bigotry (really, I was</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">there).</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Anyway, there's a core of something good in the Mj2 code. I know there</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">is, that's why I still run it. And indeed I've long since moved on.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">But I would be happy to help in what limited capacity I can if someone</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">else wants to do stuff. Of course, that's always been the case. But</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">there's a lot that needs doing.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> - J<</FONT> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML> --=-HRxjY5vaNc5TOPhh8E9Q--