Re: Mulberry and OSX Catalina

John Klensin <[email protected]> Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:26:19 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.mail.mulberry.user
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--On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:55:20 -0800, Brian Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:

> When I had to let go of Mulberry I used Thunderbird for a year
> or two.  But it was buggy and slow, and I grew to hate it. I
> gave up on it and  installed RoundCube webmail. I've been
> using it ever since. It is much  better than Thunderbird,
> though it can't do everything Mulberry could  do.

Yeah, especially to the issues with Thunderbird, which I suppose
I should look at again but haven't had the energy.  My problem
is that I'm fairly dependent on a number of Mulberry IMAP
features, including IMAP disconnected mode.  It actually doesn't
handle that very well, but it does handle it rather that than
offline mode only or not even that.  That requirement, AFAIK,
lets out all webmail clients.  I'm also quite dependent on
subaddresses which, again, Mulberry doesn't handle really well
but does at least support.   But, like others (including those
who have not yet switched to something else as well as those who
have) and at least with the Windoz version, the inability to
handle modern X.509 certificates (and no prospect of handling
newer ideas and formats), an odd problem that has fairly
recently appeared with replies to, I think, mail that has passed
through MS Exchange being turned into Chinese and/or gibberish,
inability to keep up with IETF changes to IMAP and mailstore
architectures (whether wise or not), and a collection of much
older annoyances will eventually force me out too.

While there are obviously not as many of us who need (or think
and insist we need) those features as those who are happy with
whatever free webmail client happens to be available (most of
whom are also happy with having their mail on one of a handful
of large mail-provider systems), I can't help thinking that
there are enough of us who would be happy to pay for a
high-quality, up-to-date, and supported IMAP client to be able
to provide a comfortable living for someone who wanted to build
and maintain a system, probably based on a thoughtful
reimplementation of Mulberry.   But I don't know how to do the
needed organizing, much less how to find her, him, or them.

sadly and with much frustration,
   john