Re: email program
Martin Dietze <[email protected]> Fri, 24 Jan 2020 00:19:31 +0100
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--Apple-Mail=_3453D110-2F59-4B96-8378-917A19AE0F0C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 23. Jan 2020, at 20:35, Lutz Pogrell = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > In case you want to build yourself, you might check out the = repository here: > <https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main = <https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main>> > It has some changes from me, however not the verry latest. Thanks :) However I have stopped maintaining my fork of Mulberry long ago.=20 Reasons being (most of all) that Cyrus never merged anything of my (or = anybody else I know of) work back into the main development branch, so = that for each change he would make to the code I=E2=80=99d have to = manually merge it into mine and adapt quite a few things to make things = fit again.=20 It felt more and more like a waste of time.=20 Second, it became clear that for Mac Mulberry would eventually become = unusable, because the UI code depends on library that have always been = 32bit and will never be ported to 64bit, hence, without a complete UI = rewrite there would be no chance to use the program in a 64bit-only = environment (which is what we have after the upgrade to Catalina).=20 Mulberry=E2=80=99s license model was changed from commercial to = freeware. The source code was published. But there never was any = interest to join forces with others to make the necessary changes (to be = fair: the group of people who could have contributed anything of = interest was far too small anyway).=20 Hence: the project is dead. I hate to say it, because I really liked the = software. By now it has become so marginal that there is really no = chance to recruit the necessary workforce willing to rewrite the UI code = and make the program usable for ordinary people.=20 We may disagree on which of the remaining mailers is best. I don=E2=80=99t= mind TB, but on my Mac Apple Mail is just fine for me.=20 It does not have any of all the Sieve scripting goodies, but fortunately = I no longer require this (I used to in my previous company).=20 Integration of contacts on my machine, composing, interacting with the = OS (drag and drop, etc.) all works just fine.=20 Again: without support the best piece of software can easily become = useless.=20 Support can come from a vendor and may cost money, or it may come from a = large enough community.=20 Neither is available for Mulberry. Sad but true.=20 Cheers, m. --=20 Dr. Martin Dietze 1. Vorsitzender Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V. http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/ --Apple-Mail=_3453D110-2F59-4B96-8378-917A19AE0F0C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On = 23. Jan 2020, at 20:35, Lutz Pogrell <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">In case you want to build = yourself, you might check out the repository here:</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""><</span><a = href=3D"https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main" style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D"">https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main</a><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">It has some changes from me, = however not the verry latest.</span></div></blockquote></div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks :)</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However I have stopped = maintaining my fork of Mulberry long ago. </div><div = class=3D"">Reasons being (most of all) that Cyrus never merged anything = of my (or anybody else I know of) work back into the main development = branch, so that for each change he would make to the code I=E2=80=99d = have to manually merge it into mine and adapt quite a few things to make = things fit again. </div><div class=3D"">It felt more and more like = a waste of time. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Second, it became clear that for Mac Mulberry would = eventually become unusable, because the UI code depends on library that = have always been 32bit and will never be ported to 64bit, hence, without = a complete UI rewrite there would be no chance to use the program in a = 64bit-only environment (which is what we have after the upgrade to = Catalina). </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Mulberry=E2=80=99s license model was changed from commercial = to freeware. The source code was published. But there never was any = interest to join forces with others to make the necessary changes (to be = fair: the group of people who could have contributed anything of = interest was far too small anyway). </div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Hence: the project is dead. I hate to = say it, because I really liked the software. By now it has become so = marginal that there is really no chance to recruit the necessary = workforce willing to rewrite the UI code and make the program usable for = ordinary people. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">We may disagree on which of the remaining mailers is best. I = don=E2=80=99t mind TB, but on my Mac Apple Mail is just fine for = me. </div><div class=3D"">It does not have any of all the Sieve = scripting goodies, but fortunately I no longer require this (I used to = in my previous company). </div><div class=3D"">Integration of = contacts on my machine, composing, interacting with the OS (drag and = drop, etc.) all works just fine. </div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Again: without support the best piece = of software can easily become useless. </div><div class=3D"">Support = can come from a vendor and may cost money, or it may come from a large = enough community. </div><div class=3D"">Neither is available for = Mulberry. Sad but true. </div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">m.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;">-- </div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;">Dr. Martin Dietze</div><div style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">1. = Vorsitzender<br class=3D"">Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.<br = class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/" = class=3D"">http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/</a></div></div= ></div></div> </div> <br class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_3453D110-2F59-4B96-8378-917A19AE0F0C--