Re: email program

Paul Schmehl <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:57:02 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.mail.mulberry.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------6E4B2A3DE58A2CBFC5AC65E2
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 1/23/20 5:19 PM, Martin Dietze wrote:

>
>> On 23. Jan 2020, at 20:35, Lutz Pogrell 
>> <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> In case  you want to build yourself, you might check out the 
>> repository here:
>> <https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main>
>> It has some changes from me, however not the verry latest.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> However I have stopped maintaining my fork of Mulberry long ago.
> Reasons being (most of all) that Cyrus never merged anything of my (or 
> anybody else I know of) work back into the main development branch, so 
> that for each change he would make to the code I’d have to manually 
> merge it into mine and adapt quite a few things to make things fit again.
> It felt more and more like a waste of time.
>
> Second, it became clear that for Mac Mulberry would eventually become 
> unusable, because the UI code depends on library that have always been 
> 32bit and will never be ported to 64bit, hence, without a complete UI 
> rewrite there would be no chance to use the program in a 64bit-only 
> environment (which is what we have after the upgrade to Catalina).
>
> Mulberry’s license model was changed from commercial to freeware. The 
> source code was published. But there never was any interest to join 
> forces with others to make the necessary changes (to be fair: the 
> group of people who could have contributed anything of interest was 
> far too small anyway).
>
> Hence: the project is dead. I hate to say it, because I really liked 
> the software. By now it has become so marginal that there is really no 
> chance to recruit the necessary workforce willing to rewrite the UI 
> code and make the program usable for ordinary people.
Yes, it's dead, sad to say. I tried several clients and ended up using 
Thunderbird, because it allows me to create local folders. I use those a 
lot, and they're on Dropbox. I could never figure out how to get Apple 
Mail to write to Dropbox instead of the local hard drive.
>
> We may disagree on which of the remaining mailers is best. I don’t 
> mind TB, but on my Mac Apple Mail is just fine for me.
> It does not have any of all the Sieve scripting goodies, but 
> fortunately I no longer require this (I used to in my previous company).
> Integration of contacts on my machine, composing, interacting with the 
> OS (drag and drop, etc.) all works just fine.
MUAs are a lot like OSes. Personal preference is just that. It always 
seems so silly to me to argue about which one is "best". The "best" of 
anything is what you will enjoy using. I stuck with Mulberry for as long 
as I could, but it was time to move on.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Retired
My opinions are my own.
*******************************************
"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson
"There are some ideas so wrong that only a very
intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell


--------------6E4B2A3DE58A2CBFC5AC65E2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>On 1/23/20 5:19 PM, Martin Dietze wrote:<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email protected]">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <br class="">
      <div>
        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
          <div class="">On 23. Jan 2020, at 20:35, Lutz Pogrell &lt;<a
              href="mailto:[email protected]" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
          <div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
              font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
              normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
              letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
              0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
              text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
              !important;" class="">In case  you want to build yourself,
              you might check out the repository here:</span><br
              style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
              font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
              normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
              text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
              white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
              class="">
            <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
              Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
              font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
              letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
              0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
              text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
              !important;" class="">&lt;</span><a
              href="https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main"
              style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
              font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
              font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
              auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
              none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
              0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/mbert/mulberry-main</a><span
              style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
              font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
              normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
              text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
              white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;
              float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">&gt;</span><br
              style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
              font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
              normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
              text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
              white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
              class="">
            <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
              Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
              font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
              letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
              0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
              text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
              !important;" class="">It has some changes from me, however
              not the verry latest.</span></div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Thanks :)</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">However I have stopped maintaining my fork of
        Mulberry long ago. </div>
      <div class="">Reasons being (most of all) that Cyrus never merged
        anything of my (or anybody else I know of) work back into the
        main development branch, so that for each change he would make
        to the code I’d have to manually merge it into mine and adapt
        quite a few things to make things fit again. </div>
      <div class="">It felt more and more like a waste of time. </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Second, it became clear that for Mac Mulberry would
        eventually become unusable, because the UI code depends on
        library that have always been 32bit and will never be ported to
        64bit, hence, without a complete UI rewrite there would be no
        chance to use the program in a 64bit-only environment (which is
        what we have after the upgrade to Catalina). </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Mulberry’s license model was changed from commercial
        to freeware. The source code was published. But there never was
        any interest to join forces with others to make the necessary
        changes (to be fair: the group of people who could have
        contributed anything of interest was far too small anyway). </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Hence: the project is dead. I hate to say it,
        because I really liked the software. By now it has become so
        marginal that there is really no chance to recruit the necessary
        workforce willing to rewrite the UI code and make the program
        usable for ordinary people. <br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Yes, it's dead, sad to say. I tried several clients and ended up
    using Thunderbird, because it allows me to create local folders. I
    use those a lot, and they're on Dropbox. I could never figure out
    how to get Apple Mail to write to Dropbox instead of the local hard
    drive.<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email protected]">
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">We may disagree on which of the remaining mailers is
        best. I don’t mind TB, but on my Mac Apple Mail is just fine for
        me. </div>
      <div class="">It does not have any of all the Sieve scripting
        goodies, but fortunately I no longer require this (I used to in
        my previous company). </div>
      <div class="">Integration of contacts on my machine, composing,
        interacting with the OS (drag and drop, etc.) all works just
        fine. <br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    MUAs are a lot like OSes. Personal preference is just that. It
    always seems so silly to me to argue about which one is "best". The
    "best" of anything is what you will enjoy using. I stuck with
    Mulberry for as long as I could, but it was time to move on.
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Paul Schmehl, Retired
My opinions are my own.
*******************************************
"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson  
"There are some ideas so wrong that only a very 
intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell
</pre>
  </body>
</html>

--------------6E4B2A3DE58A2CBFC5AC65E2--