Re: Trying to compare two pinercs, to figure out a repeatable delay

Some possible issues:
I get these all of the time, but it's MY OWN FAULT!
;^)

I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox right now.  Yes, I know this is just 
bad (but if I had time to sort all of the hundreds of emails I get 
more than I already do, I'd probably get fired for not doing anything else 
during the day - deleting is no better sine I have many "open issues" to 
follow over long timeframes; some day I'll get a better process in place 
for email...).

Anyway, I tested this by moving all of my emails to another folder 
temporarily and voila! - no more delays.  As soon as I move them back, 
PINE has to deal with reading, writing and loading my gigantic 
Inbox and other folders and so it falls behind.  The delays seemed to get 
worse with our move to Net-Apps, so the network seems to be more of an 
additional factor.  Also, "bsuy times" (~9am, ~Noon and ~5pm) make it 
worse, due to the spike in usage levels.

Your .pinerc files may not be helping, but I find the above to be the real 
issue most of the time (you should see some fo the faculty Inboxes that 
make mine look puny!).  One other issue that may be a factor is the 
frequency of new mail checks.  Try comparing these settings:
             [ ]  quell-mailchecks-composing-except-inbox
             [ ]  quell-mailchecks-composing-inbox
             [ ]  check-newmail-when-quitting
...and:
mail-check-interval            = 30
mail-check-interval-noncurrent = <No Value Set: using "0">
maildrop-check-minimum         = <No Value Set: using "60">

BTW, if you think PINE is bad, you should see Outlook (yuck!) choke, hang 
and timeout on big folders via IMAP, ugh (I support a myriad of emailers, 
but PINE is my personal favorite and default - vive la PINE)!

FYI,
-Matt


On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Matt Ackeret wrote:

>
> I'm trying to narrow down whether the delays I see starting up pine (I see
> the waiting for 30 seconds and usually waiting for 60 seconds message every
> time I start up pine) are actually somehow related to my own settings.
> (I think it may be a combination of both my settings and something weird
> with my server, since another mail client, GNUMail, also takes a very long
> time to start up.)
>
> I started on a new user account and started up pine..  After configuring
> the minimal things like my mail server, pine comes up VERY fast.
>
> At one point in the process of adding a few settings at a time and quitting
> and restarting, I *did* have the slowdown happening repeatably on the 'new'
> config.  But then undoing what I thought was my last change didn't undo the
> slowdown.
>
> I mostly started over, and now I have the majority of the settings copied
> over, and my original setup (whether I use a remote config or my .pinerc)
> does the slowdown..  and the new settings (starting up pine with the -p option)
> aren't slow.
>
> Diffing the two files, I see that lots of settings are in a different
> order.  Also, my orig .pinerc says
> # Updated by Pine(tm) 4.21, copyright 1989-1999 University of Washington.
>
> but the new one (started clean from 4.62) doesn't say what version it was
> created with.
>
> I guess I could simply remove any comments and blank lines, and sort each
> file to diff them easier?
>
> Basically -- I'm still repeatedly getting a delay from one of them, and not
> from the other..  and I've started and quit each one multiple times, it
> doesn't seem like some kind of throttling on the server end if I connect too
> often or anything like that.
>
> Does anybody have any other ideas on how to easily diff these two
> settings files and/or an idea of what could be causing these delays??
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Matthew Kozak
Rutgers University-Camden
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