[pfx] Re: SMTPUTF8

Danjel Jungersen via Postfix-users <[email protected]> Fri, 3 Jul 2026 08:14:15 +0200
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On 03-07-2026 03:04, John R. Levine via Postfix-users wrote:
>> The receiver claims that he receives mail from other people using the 
>> IDN version.
>
> Honestly, I'm sceptical.  My guess is that the other people have the 
> A-label version of the address in their address book, and his mail 
> program doesn't show him the address in incoming mail.
>
> I have done a lot of EAI related work for ICANN and I can tell you 
> that using IDN mail addresses is one of those things that is supposed 
> to work but is painful in practice.  A lot of software almost but not 
> quite implements it, as we saw here.  Postfix support is fine (one of 
> the things I did was to test it and it got a gold star) but you have 
> to turn it on.

By turning on, do you mean for incoming mails?

A search tell me that postfix has it turned on by default.
postconf show this:
smtputf8_autodetect_classes = sendmail, verify
smtputf8_enable = ${{$compatibility_level} <level {1} ? {no} : {yes}}

If I'm not mistaken, my server did work for this outgoing e-mail, right?
OR...??

I have noted the warning about enabling it, and I have no plans for 
hosting any of these domains myself, but will do my best to make my 
users happy.

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Med venlig hilsen/Kind regards
Danjel Jungersen
Mail: [email protected]
Mobile: +45 20 42 20 11

Jungersen Grafisk ApS,
Holsbjergvej 39, DK-2620 Albertslund,
Denmark.
Tel: +45 43 64 10 00

WEBSHOP: PRINTLIGHT.DK <https://www.printlight.dk> | WWW.JUNGERSEN.DK 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03-07-2026 03:04, John R. Levine via
      Postfix-users wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:[email protected]">
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;">The receiver
        claims that he receives mail from other people using the IDN
        version.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      Honestly, I'm sceptical.  My guess is that the other people have
      the A-label version of the address in their address book, and his
      mail program doesn't show him the address in incoming mail.
      <br>
      <br>
      I have done a lot of EAI related work for ICANN and I can tell you
      that using IDN mail addresses is one of those things that is
      supposed to work but is painful in practice.  A lot of software
      almost but not quite implements it, as we saw here.  Postfix
      support is fine (one of the things I did was to test it and it got
      a gold star) but you have to turn it on.</blockquote>
    <p>By turning on, do you mean for incoming mails?</p>
    <p>A search tell me that postfix has it turned on by default.<br>
      postconf show this:<br>
      smtputf8_autodetect_classes = sendmail, verify<br>
      smtputf8_enable = ${{$compatibility_level} &lt;level {1} ? {no} :
      {yes}}</p>
    <p>If I'm not mistaken, my server did work for this outgoing e-mail,
      right?<br>
      OR...??</p>
    <p>I have noted the warning about enabling it, and I have no plans
      for hosting any of these domains myself, but will do my best to
      make my users happy.</p>
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      Med venlig hilsen/Kind regards<br>
      Danjel Jungersen<br>
      Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>
      Mobile: +45 20 42 20 11<br>
      <br>
      Jungersen Grafisk ApS,<br>
      Holsbjergvej 39, DK-2620 Albertslund,<br>
      Denmark.<br>
      Tel: +45 43 64 10 00<br>
      <br>
      <a href="https://www.printlight.dk" moz-do-not-send="true">WEBSHOP:
        PRINTLIGHT.DK</a> | <a href="https://www.jungersen.dk"
        moz-do-not-send="true">WWW.JUNGERSEN.DK</a><br>
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