RE: :-(( Re: [DSBL-Contact] Website link for 195.146.224.86

On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:17 +0200, André Séjournet wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> You tell me about rules. I tell you about facts: 
> 
> Yes the only public name is  "ALLIANCEOPTIQUE-DSL3.turboadsl.nordnet.fr".
> But the ISP do not want to change it to "allianceoptique.fr". I can NOT
> control the reverse DNS. So, what can I do ? 
>
> Yes, the ISP has requested removal, robot has sent mails to
> [email protected], which were received by the ISP, and the ISP has "happily"
> ignored it. So, what can I do ? (nothing but wasting more time to call ISP,
> and so on...)
> 
> And, NO, my SMTP server is NOT a open Relay. This is fact, and you know it.
> So, why do not you simply remove it from your list ?


Bonjour,

Le 17 août dernier, vous aviez un serveur SMTP sur cette adresse. Ce
serveur était open relay, raison pour laquelle il a été blacklisté.

Par trois fois, une demande de retrait a été faite, un message a été
envoyé à [email protected] Ce message contient une URL qui doit être
ouverte pour activer la demande de retrait. Manifestement personne n'a
lu le message ou du moins n'a suivi les explications qu'il contenait.
Contactez nordnet.fr pour qu'ils vous transfèrent ce message ou qu'ils
activent le retrait en ouvrant le lien.

Cordialement,
Jean-Eudes


> 
> Well, there are rules, there are facts. I knwow that such amazing situations
> can happen because of bureaucrats whose duties are routine and uncreative,
> but are you a bureaucrat ? I am not. Working with computers is not routine
> and uncreative, it needs reactive peoples, peoples which do not act as
> computers following rules... Some decades ago, this kind of behavior has
> caused grave consequences.
> 
> André Séjournet.
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alexey Lobanov [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Envoyé : mercredi 7 septembre 2005 09:14
> À : [email protected]
> Cc : [email protected]
> Objet : :-(( Re: [DSBL-Contact] Website link for 195.146.224.86
> 
> Hello.
> 
> André Séjournet wrote:
> 
> > Dear Sirs,
> > 
> > I work for a facilities management company and one of my customers has 
> > a smtp server which is blacklisted from 08/17/2005 (!). Several 
> > requests were done without success. This SMTP server is NOT an OPEN 
> > RELAY because port 25 is closed for three weeks ! (or prove me the 
> > contrary !). So why keep you it in your list !?
> 
> Just because noone at your side wants to confirm the responibility for this
> host. Multiple messages from DSBL robot to <[email protected]> are ignored
> happily.
> 
> > Furthermore, you propose email address that can not be reached, and I 
> > can not choose an other one (your site says we can, but we can not!).
> 
> You can, if you control the reverse DNS for this network.
> 
> > The concerned domain name is allianceoptique.fr but the only address I 
> > can choose use nordnet.fr and 
> > Allianceoptique-DSL3.turboadsl.nordnet.fr.
> 
> Yes, because the only public name of this host is
> "ALLIANCEOPTIQUE-DSL3.turboadsl.nordnet.fr". The purpose of the
> "removalquery" is to check the accountability of 195.146.224.86; is there
> any working *public* contact for abuse/security/etc reports?
> Unfortunately, the current answer is "no".
> 
> > 
> > So, I am waiting for answers and explanations because you put my 
> > company in very unpleasant position.
> 
> I believe, you have to co-operate with the network owners. As soon as
> Nordnet replace the reverse DNS record with any hostname pointing to
> "allianceoptique.fr" domain, we'll know that <[email protected]>
> is responsible and should be tested in removalquery.
> 
> 
>