RE: 209.196.45.44

There has got to be a reason that I do not receive your confirmation 
emails.  The e-mail gets lost before it goes to my mailbox.  I have 
tested it over and over again and do not receive any emails.   

I am using Godaddy as my email provider.  Godaddy claims that I can 
receive mail with no from address.  Perhaps you can do your due 
diligence and work with Godaddy to resolve this issue.
 
I have changed the IP of my mail server to resolve the issue, but it 
only worked for 80% of my customers.  Some of my customers email 
servers resolve our address incorrectly to 209.196.45.44, even though 
I have the mail send from a different address and 
webserver.marketinglibrary.net points to a different IP.

It seems that the only way I can resolve this issue is to get 
209.196.45.44 removed from your blacklist.  This is our last option.

Your system was set up to make the internet a better place.  If you 
are keeping the good people like myself out, then you are actually 
hurting your cause.  You must understand by now how patient I have 
been and how much good faith I have in your site.  If you are still 
unwilling to unblock me, then your project loses all meaning.  The
bad guys won once you make it difficult for the good guys to exist.


 -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [DSBL-Contact] 209.196.45.44
From: "Jean-Eudes ONFRAY" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, December 21, 2006 5:11 pm
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]

--- Original Message ---
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [DSBL-Contact] 209.196.45.44
> Date: Fri 22 Dec 2006 01:59:41 CET
> 
> I am sending this because I am unable to receive emails from your server
> due to your server not meeting the RFC compliance 2822.  All I am trying
> to do, is to completely remove my IP from your blacklist.  I have
> followed all of your guidelines and am making every honest effort
> possible.  I find it ironic that you are trying to enforce some RFC's
> but not all RFC's. 
> 
> Below is the information that Godaddy sent me.  I could possibly
> understand it wrong, but I trust what Godaddy has to say.  Godaddy is
> now the #1 company for internet services in the world.  Godaddy sells
> twice as many domains as network solutions and accounts for more than
> 30% of all domains sold.  Please update your email system to meet the
> standards. 
> 
> RFC 2822  
> Requires Originator Email Address in the E-Mail Header.  Due to any
> contradiction,
> I would assume that the highest RFC take precedent.
>  
> 3.6.   
> 
> "The only required header fields are the origination date field and
> the originator address field(s).  All other header fields are
> syntactically optional.  More information is contained in the table
> following this definition." 
>  
> 3.6.2 
> 
> "The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the
> sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field.
> The from field consists of the field name "From" and a
> comma-separated list of one or more mailbox specifications." 
> 
> Regards,
> Rick Paul   
> 

Hi,

There must be something wrong on their side. DSBL robot is using an
empty return path but the From field in the headers is corectly set.
See sample below:
Return-Path: <>
Received: [...]
From: DSBL <[email protected]>
Subject: Removal Confirmation for $$IP$$
Date [...]

Regards,

Jean-Eudes
DSBL Volunteer

>   
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
> From: Stacey Christiansen <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, December 20, 2006 1:42 pm
> To: Rick Paul <[email protected]> 
> 
> 
> Hi Rick,
>  
> From our email team:
>  
> "They may leave the *mail from* field blank, and we do not reject
> on that basis. 
> 
> However, our spam filters do reject if the *header from* (the line
> reading From: [email protected])
> is blank. This is a required field under RFC2822. 
> 
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html 
> 
>   The only required header fields are the origination date field and
>   the originator address field(s).  All other header fields are
>   syntactically optional.  More information is contained in the table
>   following this definition." 
> 
>  
> Does this answer your question, clear everything up - do you still see
> this as a problem?
>  
> Thanks,
> Stace 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
> From: "Rick Paul" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, December 19, 2006 5:18 pm
> To: "'Stacey Christiansen'" <[email protected]> 
> 
> 
> Certainly,
>  
>   Ask them to telnet into their smtp server.  Create a new mail message
> and leave the “Mail From†field blank.  The email will send, but will
> not arrive in the mail box.  The spam servers reject it.  When they
> reject it, they have no place to reject it to, so it gets lost forever.
>  
>  
>   Ask them to then telnet into the smtp server and create a new mail
> message with a Mail From field.  The email will arrive.
>  
>   Both tests work fine with my accounts at other hosting providers. 
> Godaddy is supposedly the only provider who does not meet email
> compliance standards.  I spent countless hours during thanksgiving week
> with support until they admitted that their servers block messages with
> no “Mail From†field.
>  
>   In a perfect world, all email addressed to me would be delivered to
> me, unless I set a setting to block it.
>  
> Regards,
> Rick Paul 
> 
>   
> 
> From: Stacey Christiansen [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
>  
> Hi Rick,
>  
> Our email dev team has told me that we do allow emails to be received
> with no mail from address. Is there a specific example you could send
> me so we can investigate further to determine why email is being
> blocked?
>  
> Thanks,
> Stace
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: E-mail Compliance
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, December 13, 2006 11:08 am
> To: [email protected]
> Will the e-mail ever be compliant so that I can receive emails from
> people with no "mail from" address?  I am missing out on many important
> emails because the sender does not use a mail from in their emails.  The
> no "mail from" address is supposed to be allowed according to internet
> standards rfcs.  According to the standards group, Godaddy is the only
> major email provider that does not follow the internet standards
> compliance rfc's.
>  
> I would hate to have to move my email to another host. 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
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