Re: 209.196.45.44

"Jean-Eudes ONFRAY" <[email protected]> Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:11:28 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.dsbl.admin
Message-ID <[email protected]>

--- Original Message ---
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [DSBL-Contact] 209.196.45.44
> Date: Fri 22 Dec 2006 01:59:41 CET
> 
> I am sending this because I am unable to receive emails from your server
> due to your server not meeting the RFC compliance 2822.  All I am trying
> to do, is to completely remove my IP from your blacklist.  I have
> followed all of your guidelines and am making every honest effort
> possible.  I find it ironic that you are trying to enforce some RFC's
> but not all RFC's. 
> 
> Below is the information that Godaddy sent me.  I could possibly
> understand it wrong, but I trust what Godaddy has to say.  Godaddy is
> now the #1 company for internet services in the world.  Godaddy sells
> twice as many domains as network solutions and accounts for more than
> 30% of all domains sold.  Please update your email system to meet the
> standards. 
> 
> RFC 2822  
> Requires Originator Email Address in the E-Mail Header.  Due to any
> contradiction,
> I would assume that the highest RFC take precedent.
>  
> 3.6.   
> 
> "The only required header fields are the origination date field and
> the originator address field(s).  All other header fields are
> syntactically optional.  More information is contained in the table
> following this definition." 
>  
> 3.6.2 
> 
> "The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the
> sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field.
> The from field consists of the field name "From" and a
> comma-separated list of one or more mailbox specifications." 
> 
> Regards,
> Rick Paul   
> 

Hi,

There must be something wrong on their side. DSBL robot is using an
empty return path but the From field in the headers is corectly set.
See sample below:
 Return-Path: <>
 Received: [...]
 From: DSBL <[email protected]>
 Subject: Removal Confirmation for $$IP$$
 Date [...]

Regards,

Jean-Eudes
DSBL Volunteer

>   
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
> From: Stacey Christiansen <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, December 20, 2006 1:42 pm
> To: Rick Paul <[email protected]> 
> 
> 
> Hi Rick,
>  
> From our email team:
>  
> "They may leave the *mail from* field blank, and we do not reject
> on that basis. 
> 
> However, our spam filters do reject if the *header from* (the line
> reading From: [email protected])
> is blank. This is a required field under RFC2822. 
> 
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html 
> 
>   The only required header fields are the origination date field and
>   the originator address field(s).  All other header fields are
>   syntactically optional.  More information is contained in the table
>   following this definition." 
> 
>  
> Does this answer your question, clear everything up - do you still see
> this as a problem?
>  
> Thanks,
> Stace 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
> From: "Rick Paul" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, December 19, 2006 5:18 pm
> To: "'Stacey Christiansen'" <[email protected]> 
> 
> 
> Certainly,
>  
>   Ask them to telnet into their smtp server.  Create a new mail message
> and leave the “Mail From” field blank.  The email will send, but will
> not arrive in the mail box.  The spam servers reject it.  When they
> reject it, they have no place to reject it to, so it gets lost forever.
>  
>  
>   Ask them to then telnet into the smtp server and create a new mail
> message with a Mail From field.  The email will arrive.
>  
>   Both tests work fine with my accounts at other hosting providers. 
> Godaddy is supposedly the only provider who does not meet email
> compliance standards.  I spent countless hours during thanksgiving week
> with support until they admitted that their servers block messages with
> no “Mail From” field.
>  
>   In a perfect world, all email addressed to me would be delivered to
> me, unless I set a setting to block it.
>  
> Regards,
> Rick Paul 
> 
>   
> 
> From: Stacey Christiansen [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: E-mail Compliance
>  
> Hi Rick,
>  
> Our email dev team has told me that we do allow emails to be received
> with no mail from address. Is there a specific example you could send
> me so we can investigate further to determine why email is being
> blocked?
>  
> Thanks,
> Stace
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: E-mail Compliance
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, December 13, 2006 11:08 am
> To: [email protected]
> Will the e-mail ever be compliant so that I can receive emails from
> people with no "mail from" address?  I am missing out on many important
> emails because the sender does not use a mail from in their emails.  The
> no "mail from" address is supposed to be allowed according to internet
> standards rfcs.  According to the standards group, Godaddy is the only
> major email provider that does not follow the internet standards
> compliance rfc's.
>  
> I would hate to have to move my email to another host. 
> 
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> 
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