RE: 209.196.45.44

[email protected] Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:29:43 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.dsbl.admin
Message-ID <20061221222943.33082117b05d25462b56f421a2ecdb9c.75f4750dee.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Hello, 

  Godaddy.com is the biggest internet company in the world for
hosting/email/domains.  Your system is not capable of sending emails to
Godaddy.com.  Godaddy.com says that your emails do not meet RFC
standards, which is why they are being rejected.  Yes, they say that
the dsbl.org emails are not compliant.

  It is very difficult for a third party (me) to coordinate efforts
between DSBL and Godaddy.  It is much easier for you to contact Godaddy
and resolve your issues.  Isn't it in your best interest to coordinate
efforts with the biggest provider?  

  There is a saying:  "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." 
    

  Any spam company can easily change their IP's and/or have the
resources to set up their own mail servers so that they can comply with
your rules.  It is much easier for a spammer to get off of your list
than the regular guy.  Think about this. 

  You know that the server is configured correctly and not sending out
spam.  Your tools are able to detect this.  I am pleading for you to
fix this.  You know that we only have good intentions.  Yet, you are
unwilling to remove our IP from your list.  Your company is causing
grief to the same people who you are trying to protect.  This is my
last plead to remove my IP from your list.  If you truly care about
good people then you would comply with my plea.  If not, I will have to
figure something else out.   

Regards, 
Rick Paul 

 -------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [DSBL-Contact] 209.196.45.44
From: Bert Driehuis <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, December 21, 2006 6:21 pm
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]

[ Note: I do not represent DSBL. I just track [email protected] to keep
abreast
of possible issues that might affect my use of DSBL, and occasionally I
help
out with questions. You may get responses from other subscribers to
[email protected], possibly even with dissenting opinions. ]

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, [email protected] wrote:

> There has got to be a reason that I do not receive your confirmation
> emails.  The e-mail gets lost before it goes to my mailbox.  I have
> tested it over and over again and do not receive any emails.

I completely sympathize with your plight, but that won't help you, I'm 
afraid.

Any postmaster worth his salt can trace an e-mail message. An SMTP 
server at 64.202.166.12 accepted the message on 2006/Dec/22 01:44:29 UTC

and said "250 ok 1166751874 qp 26043 by 
pre-smtp21-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net". All part of the record at 
http://dsbl.org/listing?209.196.45.44 , by the way. That should be 
sufficient information for your provider to track this down. Don't let 
them off the hook until they either informed you (with an NTP calibrated

time stamp and all technical detail) of when and how they handed off the

message to you and thus prove you must have lost it since, or they come 
clean and tell you why they discarded the message and what they will do 
to prevent recurrence, or they retrieved it from a quaranteen folder. As

a paying customer, there is no fourth option. And #2, silently ditching 
your e-mail is not an option ISPs should get away with, as I'm sure 
you'll agree.

Please note that rejecting e-mail is fine; it's promising to deliver it 
and then sweeping it under the carpet that is the problem here.