Re: [spambayes-dev] If we don't get some more Windows help pretty soon...

Thomas Hruska <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spambayes.general
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On 6/29/2011 4:08 AM, Erik Ohrnberger wrote:
> I gave up on spambayes.  It was letting too much spam through. At one time,
> it was batting 100, but I guess the spammers got smarter or something.
>
> I'm using a gmail account now forwarded to a private (secret) inbox that my
> outlook pulls down.

Same here (minus the Outlook part).  Spammers won because Spambayes 
didn't keep up, IMO.  Letting us define a list of word filters and rules 
to apply prior to letting Spambayes do its Bayesian thing would be a 
vast improvement to the product despite what the devs claim.  I know my 
e-mail better than any computer does or likely ever will.

Spambayes also isn't very good about enforcing balanced ham/spam.  It 
works best with equal parts and small numbers of ham and spam but never 
actually enforces either policy.  99% of what comes into many people's 
in-boxes is spam.  The solution spammers came up with to get through 
Spambayes was simply to generate more spam and hope people would 
overtrain Bayesian filters, which is exactly what constantly happens 
with Spambayes.  Bayesian-like filters are hard to work with and really 
need a trainer analyzer.  A good trainer analyzer will keep the filter 
free of things that would not produce effective results.  In this case, 
the elimination of spam and limited false positives.

I can open my mouth here because I've actually done some development on 
this open source product.  Or at least attempted to.  My contributions a 
few years ago were effectively rejected, which pretty much killed any 
potential future efforts on my behalf.  I happen to have some pretty 
solid C++ COM Outlook add-in development street cred, so the Spambayes 
devs ruined an opportunity to pick up a Windows developer with the 
requisite knowledge.

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