Re: [spambayes-dev] If we don't get some more Windows help pretty soon...

On Wed, June 29, 2011 17:42, Thomas Hruska wrote:
> On 6/29/2011 4:08 AM, Erik Ohrnberger wrote:
>> I gave up on spambayes.  It was letting too much spam through. At one
>> time,
>> it was batting 100, but I guess the spammers got smarter or something.
>>
>> I'm using a gmail account now forwarded to a private (secret) inbox that
>> my
>> outlook pulls down.
>
> Same here (minus the Outlook part).  Spammers won because Spambayes
> didn't keep up, IMO.  Letting us define a list of word filters and rules
> to apply prior to letting Spambayes do its Bayesian thing would be a
> vast improvement to the product despite what the devs claim.  I know my
> e-mail better than any computer does or likely ever will.

You can do that if you use Spambayes as a procmail filter.

> Spambayes also isn't very good about enforcing balanced ham/spam.  It
> works best with equal parts and small numbers of ham and spam but never
> actually enforces either policy.  99% of what comes into many people's
> in-boxes is spam.  The solution spammers came up with to get through
> Spambayes was simply to generate more spam and hope people would
> overtrain Bayesian filters, which is exactly what constantly happens
> with Spambayes.  Bayesian-like filters are hard to work with and really
> need a trainer analyzer.  A good trainer analyzer will keep the filter
> free of things that would not produce effective results.  In this case,
> the elimination of spam and limited false positives.

amedee@intrepid:~$ ./bin/spamstats
Spam:  2974
Ham:   2040

So I have a 3:2 ratio. It could be better, but I'm not complaining.

> I can open my mouth here because I've actually done some development on
> this open source product.  Or at least attempted to.  My contributions a
> few years ago were effectively rejected, which pretty much killed any
> potential future efforts on my behalf.  I happen to have some pretty
> solid C++ COM Outlook add-in development street cred, so the Spambayes
> devs ruined an opportunity to pick up a Windows developer with the
> requisite knowledge.

Where is your branch? I assume that you used some kind of public
repository for your code? You can always fork...

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