Re: How come couple of Chinese ISPs not getting blocked yet?

Ilgaz Ocal <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:05:03 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.email
Organization SpamCop
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2006-01-09 04:27:26 +0200, "Michael R N Dolbear" <[email protected]> said:

> 
> Ilgaz Ocal <[email protected]> wrote i
> 	[...]
>> You can't imagine how many spam any spamcop user would get if 
>> spamassasin stops working than. I see only a dozen spam blocked by 
>> spamcop blocking list.
> 
> SpamCop Mail now uses SpamAssassin (SA) first and omits the blocklist
> check if it can't have any effect.
> 
> This means the only way of seeing the full effect of the block lists is
> to switch off SA for a few hours.
> 			[...]
>> In future someone could implement a filter to block mail if it
> contains
>> certain top 10 spamvertized URLs (spamcop has them) . It would be 
>> opt-in scheme of course. Nobody would want anyone jumping up and down
> 
>> saying "spamcop reads my mail"
> 
> This is already done,  SA looks at URLs in the body and check them
> against SURLBL (which gets its data from SC reports).
> 	[...]
>> It is spamassasin, not spamcop block list. I can't understand why I
> do
>> report spam if there is no effect at all... Well, I'll keep
> reporting,
>> including my native language spams in other accounts too but there is
> 
>> something changed I believe.
> 
> As noted, the SC BL entries expire so if the spamsource is rotated
> elsewhere you will have to use other blocklists for effectiveness in
> the first hours after reuse.
> 
>> I am supposed to be blocking whole China and Korea but they don't
> work too.
> 
> Blocklist brazil.blackholes.us seems to be working again, so maybe the
> others will too. If you can check the IP addresses that slip through
> then you may be able to tell us whether the problem is an incomplete
> blocklist or a failed lookup of a correct blocklist.
> 
> For the record I quick reported 6883 spams in the month of December,
> plus 67 that got though the filters and were full reported. There were
> also about 70 goodmails plus 400 from 2 whitelisted mailing lists. No
> non-spam was held. Ebay and paypal are blacklisted on this account, SA
> level=3.


Hi,

Thanks really for explanation. I didn't know spamassasin was in first 
in "filter chain", that was what confused me. I didn't know also the 
SURBBL means spamcop listed spam targets.

Have a nice day and thanks both Mike Easter and you.

Ilgaz