Re: Wondering about how SpamCop works

"Mike Easter" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.user
Organization SpamCop
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Patty wrote:

> I don't really know any specifics of the software so I can't answer
> that question.  I have been told that the only way we could implement
> this type of procedure easily is to have the person processing the
> profiles manually send a confirmation email first before subscribing
> the person.  At this point in time, that's being frowned on since we
> only have all volunteers and no one is paid to do this work.  Putting
> extra work on volunteers doesn't always fly well, I'm afraid.

I agree with that, more volunteer work is bad, but...

>  There
> are a couple of us who like the idea, but we'll see what the overall
> consensus of the admin group is.

...there's another concern I have.

Now that we've been talking about all of this in here, it is 'common
knowledge' that the/your mailing lists don't require confirmed opt-in.

That makes the lists a 'target' for those who would cause trouble
between antispammers and the 'public' -- where the public in question
would be your mailing list admins and your list readers.  An unconfirmed
mailing list is a 'good thing' to be submitting email addresses to if
your wish is to cause friction between blocklists such as spamcop's and
the unconfirmed mailing list.

Your mailing list doesn't have a feature that allows you to easily
listwash based on spamcop reports which have munged the reporter's addy.
Even tho' you have had little or no problems up to now over the past 10
years, that is liable to change in the future.

The gig would be to subscribe spamcop reporter's addresses to your
mailing list, and then those subbed reporters would not be required to
confirm their subscription, and then as soon as the mailing list mail
begins, the reporters would start reporting them, not unsubbing from a
list they never subbed.  Of course.

This would give rise to much blocklisting of your servers and much
interference with the mail to your subscribers.  The deputies are not
going to manually delist servers which have been listed because of
reports caused by unconfirmed mailing lists.  They are also not going to
help you listwash.  Your lists are going to be in the soup and your
subscribers are going to have trouble getting their mailing list mail
and everyone is going to be unhappy.


Houston, we have a problem here.  <NASA talk>

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
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