Re: Why SRS really sucks

Tom Lahti <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:46:28 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.srs.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>I hate to tell you this, but we block specific users all the time -
>irrespective of SRS.  When '[email protected]' (to take a recent example) sends
>us hundreds of spam, into the blacklist he goes.  There is no
>reason for us to block legit yahoo users just because of one
>miscreant.  If a bunch of users whose cryptic localpart begins
>with 'SRS' start spamming us - into the blacklist they go.

Yes, of course.  But you are not assigning SEMANTICS to "simon", you 
are just dropping it.  You are not trying to determine that "si" 
means something and "mon" means something else, which is what 
"assigning semantics" means.

To do THAT -- to rip apart the local part of a MAIL FROM: that is not 
in your own domain and try to determine what parts of it mean, is the 
RFC violation.

I don't think that having a one-to-one policy of localpart@domainpart 
=> action is bad or a violation of RFC.  If you try to take the local 
part apart and divide it up somehow and try to decide what the pieces 
mean, then you have a problem.  The sending MTA constructed that, and 
you really don't know how, even when you think you do.

Of course, "blacklisting" specific SRS signed MAIL FROM: only works 
for a short time period, until the hash changes.  In this case, if 
you want to be effective and stay RFC compliant, you are left with 
blocking the entire domain.  This is not your fault -- the sending 
domain administrator made that choice when he decided to SRS 
sign.  Don't treat him special just because he might have a 
"well-known" domain.

I suspect that this is precisely why domains like yahoo.com will 
probably never use SRS.  They know they will leave administrators 
wishing to remain RFC compliant with only one choice.


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