Bounce Address Tag Validation issue with TMDA

Ron Stordahl <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:05:19 -0700
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I am testing TMDA as offered by a service provider.=A0 My only access to se=
ttings is via TMDA-cgi.=0A=0AToday I encountered a user whose system uses B=
ounce Address Tag Validation.=A0 In brief this means that his e-mail server=
 prefixes the "Return-Path:" address with something like: prvs-29596b788=3D=
 and changes this perhaps daily.=A0 As a result if that correspondent's add=
ress had been validated yesterday, today it might have changed the prefix a=
nd will require validation again..and again...=A0 =0A=0AA solution, requiri=
ng effort, is to manually white list, replacing the BATV string with a '*'.=
=A0 =0A=0AIf the validation was based instead on the "From:" address this B=
ATV issue would not occur, but I suppose other issues might arise, which pr=
obably would explain why "Return-Path:" was used.=0A=0ARon Stordahl=0A=A0 =
=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =0ABounce Address Tag Validation - Wikipedia, the fr=
ee encyclopedia=0AIn computing, Bounce Address Tag Validation (BATV) is a m=
ethod, defined in an Internet Draft, for determining whether the bounce add=
ress specified in an E-mail message is valid. It is designed to reject back=
scatter, that is, bounce messages to forged return addresses.  =0AView on e=
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nt-size:12pt">I am testing TMDA as offered by a service provider.&nbsp; My =
only access to settings is via TMDA-cgi.<br><br>Today I encountered a user =
whose system uses <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATV">Bounce Addr=
ess Tag Validation.</a>&nbsp; In brief this means that his e-mail server pr=
efixes the "Return-Path:" address with something like: prvs-29596b788=3D an=
d changes this perhaps daily.&nbsp; As a result if that correspondent's add=
ress had been validated yesterday, today it might have changed the prefix a=
nd will require validation again..and again...&nbsp; <br><br>A solution, re=
quiring effort, is to manually white list, replacing the BATV string with a=
 '*'.&nbsp; <br><br>If the validation was based instead on the "From:" addr=
ess this BATV issue would not occur, but I suppose other issues might
 arise, which probably would explain why "Return-Path:" was used.<br><br>Ro=
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