Re: Bengali Bangladesh (bn-BD) Translation of SquirrelMail

2009/3/12 Paul Lesniewski <[email protected]>

> >> >> > Can someone please help to integrate Bengali Bangladesh
> translation?
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > be found in the url below:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13jan08.tar.bz2
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks so very much for your contribution!  Some questions/notes
> >> >> follow:
> >> >>
> >> >> The comment lines at the top of your squirrelmail.po file should look
> >> >> more like the Swedish one (for example).  Please have a look at it in
> >> >> sv_SE/LC_MESSAGES/squirrelmail.po and at least put the right language
> >> >> in.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for informing the issue. Now the language code is added. Please
> >> > check:
> >>
> >> Thank you.  Note that the word "LANGUAGE" at the very top of the file
> >> should be replaced with the actual language name.
> >>
> >> Also, please update the copyright to 2009.
> >
> > Now both "LANGUAGE" and copyright information is updated.
> >
> >
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_09mar09.tar.bz2
>
> Looks really good.  One thing left -- the string "sec_remove_eng.png"
> in squirrelmail.po should be translated to "sec_remove_bn_BD".  Can
> you please make this change?
>
>

Done. Please check:
http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13mar09.tar.bz2

Also I have updated the png file with red texts. :)
http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/sec_remove_bn_BD.png


>> And who should be listed as the official language maintainers?  I
> >> don't see your name in the translation itself...?  I'd need names and
> >> email addresses of the maintainers.
> >
> > Maintainer: Bengali (bn-BD)
> > Name: Jamil Ahmed
> > Email address: [email protected]
>
> OK.
>
> >> Finally, in your testing, what did you add to functions/i18n.php?
> >> Here is an example for Latvian.  Please show what you used.
> >>
> >> $languages['lv_LV']['NAME']    = 'Latvian';
> >> $languages['lv_LV']['ALTNAME'] = 'Latvi&#371;';
> >> $languages['lv_LV']['CHARSET'] = 'utf-8';
> >> $languages['lv_LV']['LOCALE'] = 'lv_LV.UTF-8';
> >> $languages['lv']['ALIAS'] = 'lv_LV';
> >>
> >> Note that LOCALE can contain multiple preferences in case the first
> >> isn't found, such as:
> >>
> >> $languages['sv_SE']['LOCALE']  = array('sv_SE.UTF-8','sv_SE');
> >
> > You can use the content of following file for "bn_BD":
> >
> > http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/lang_info.txt
>
> That ALTNAME won't work.  Any 8-bit symbols must be HTML-encoded.
>
>

Sorry, I have updated the file. Please check again.


As for whether or not "bn" should be aliased to "bn_IN" or "bn_ID",
> I'm not certain.  Do more people use Bengali in Bangladesh or India?
> India's population being what it is and that it's the second most
> spoken language there, I'd guess the latter.  However, it's the first
> official language of Bangladesh and your translation is much much more
> thorough.  Do you have reasons for your opinion on this matter?
>
>

According to http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=ben, 100M
people of Bangladesh speak Bengali but only 70M in India, and Bengali is the
official *national* language of Bangladesh.


> Btw, in bn_IN's setup.php there is an alias for both "bn" and "bn_BD"
> which
> > needs to be removed.
> >
> > $languages['bn_BD']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
> > $languages['bn']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
>
> Yes, I'll remove the alias for "bn_BD", but per above, I'm not yet
> sure who should get "bn".
>
>

Also projects like OpenOffice.org and Debian-Installer use bn for bn-BD.

Ref link for OOo:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50434


>> >> Regarding the language code, I want to confirm that Bengali in
> >> >> Bangladesh is in fact different than in India?  We do already (as you
> >> >> probably know) have a bn_IN translation.  We are moving away from
> >> >> including region codes in the language name in SquirrelMail if there
> >> >> is no reason to have it, so if you object to having the India region
> >> >> in the Bengali translation name, we can remove it.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, there are differences on spellings, dialects and general terms
> >> > usage.
> >> > So we should keep the region codes.
> >>
> >> Looking at what the rest of the free software world does, it looks
> >> like many projects (e.g., KDE, Fedora) have a "bn_IN" translation and
> >> a "bn" translation, although I do see that Debian also has a "bn_BD"
> >> translation.  I am not an expert on Bengali, but I just want to make
> >> sure we are synchronized with what everyone else is doing.
> >
> > Yes, initially we {Ankur, a team consist of Bangladeshi and Indian
> > volunteers for Bengali localization} started with "bn" translation for
> > GNOME, KDE, Fedora etc projects. After the translation reached into a
> good
> > level, it was forked into "bn" and "bn_IN". Later we did not changed the
> > "bn" translations into "bn_BD".
>
> Meaning you should have changed it from "bn" to "bn_BD"?
>
>

Actually we thought/think, as Bengali is the *national* language of
Bangladesh and the number of speaker is highest in Bangladesh, bn will go
for bn_BD by default. :)


OK, it sounds like "bn_BD" is good for SquirrelMail.
>
> We're just about finished!
>
> Thanks again!
>
>

Thanks!
-Jamil


 - Paul
>
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