Re: Bengali Bangladesh (bn-BD) Translation of SquirrelMail

>> >> >> > Can someone please help to integrate Bengali Bangladesh
>> >> >> > translation?
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > be found in the url below:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13jan08.tar.bz2
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks so very much for your contribution!  Some questions/notes
>> >> >> follow:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The comment lines at the top of your squirrelmail.po file should
>> >> >> look
>> >> >> more like the Swedish one (for example).  Please have a look at it
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> sv_SE/LC_MESSAGES/squirrelmail.po and at least put the right
>> >> >> language
>> >> >> in.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for informing the issue. Now the language code is added.
>> >> > Please
>> >> > check:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.  Note that the word "LANGUAGE" at the very top of the file
>> >> should be replaced with the actual language name.
>> >>
>> >> Also, please update the copyright to 2009.
>> >
>> > Now both "LANGUAGE" and copyright information is updated.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_09mar09.tar.bz2
>>
>> Looks really good.  One thing left -- the string "sec_remove_eng.png"
>> in squirrelmail.po should be translated to "sec_remove_bn_BD".  Can
>> you please make this change?
>
> Done. Please check:
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/squirrelmail_bn_BD_13mar09.tar.bz2
>
> Also I have updated the png file with red texts. :)
> http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/sec_remove_bn_BD.png

OK, looks good.

>> >> And who should be listed as the official language maintainers?  I
>> >> don't see your name in the translation itself...?  I'd need names and
>> >> email addresses of the maintainers.
>> >
>> > Maintainer: Bengali (bn-BD)
>> > Name: Jamil Ahmed
>> > Email address: [email protected]
>>
>> OK.
>>
>> >> Finally, in your testing, what did you add to functions/i18n.php?
>> >> Here is an example for Latvian.  Please show what you used.
>> >>
>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['NAME']    = 'Latvian';
>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['ALTNAME'] = 'Latvių';
>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['CHARSET'] = 'utf-8';
>> >> $languages['lv_LV']['LOCALE'] = 'lv_LV.UTF-8';
>> >> $languages['lv']['ALIAS'] = 'lv_LV';
>> >>
>> >> Note that LOCALE can contain multiple preferences in case the first
>> >> isn't found, such as:
>> >>
>> >> $languages['sv_SE']['LOCALE']  = array('sv_SE.UTF-8','sv_SE');
>> >
>> > You can use the content of following file for "bn_BD":
>> >
>> > http://www.ankur.org.bd/downloads/l10n/squirrelmail/lang_info.txt
>>
>> That ALTNAME won't work.  Any 8-bit symbols must be HTML-encoded.
>
> Sorry, I have updated the file. Please check again.

So "Bangla" is how you'd show "Bengali" to a native speaker reading
their webmail?  Just want to be sure.

http://squirrelmail.org/docs/devel/devel-3.html#ss3.2

>> As for whether or not "bn" should be aliased to "bn_IN" or "bn_ID",
>> I'm not certain.  Do more people use Bengali in Bangladesh or India?
>> India's population being what it is and that it's the second most
>> spoken language there, I'd guess the latter.  However, it's the first
>> official language of Bangladesh and your translation is much much more
>> thorough.  Do you have reasons for your opinion on this matter?
>
> According to http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=ben, 100M
> people of Bangladesh speak Bengali but only 70M in India, and Bengali is the
> official *national* language of Bangladesh.

OK, I'm convinced.  :-)  Beside, your translation is many times more
complete than the bn_IN one.

>> > Btw, in bn_IN's setup.php there is an alias for both "bn" and "bn_BD"
>> > which
>> > needs to be removed.
>> >
>> > $languages['bn_BD']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
>> > $languages['bn']['ALIAS'] = 'bn_IN';
>>
>> Yes, I'll remove the alias for "bn_BD", but per above, I'm not yet
>> sure who should get "bn".
>
> Also projects like OpenOffice.org and Debian-Installer use bn for bn-BD.
>
> Ref link for OOo:
> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50434
>
>> >> >> Regarding the language code, I want to confirm that Bengali in
>> >> >> Bangladesh is in fact different than in India?  We do already (as
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> probably know) have a bn_IN translation.  We are moving away from
>> >> >> including region codes in the language name in SquirrelMail if there
>> >> >> is no reason to have it, so if you object to having the India region
>> >> >> in the Bengali translation name, we can remove it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, there are differences on spellings, dialects and general terms
>> >> > usage.
>> >> > So we should keep the region codes.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at what the rest of the free software world does, it looks
>> >> like many projects (e.g., KDE, Fedora) have a "bn_IN" translation and
>> >> a "bn" translation, although I do see that Debian also has a "bn_BD"
>> >> translation.  I am not an expert on Bengali, but I just want to make
>> >> sure we are synchronized with what everyone else is doing.
>> >
>> > Yes, initially we {Ankur, a team consist of Bangladeshi and Indian
>> > volunteers for Bengali localization} started with "bn" translation for
>> > GNOME, KDE, Fedora etc projects. After the translation reached into a
>> > good
>> > level, it was forked into "bn" and "bn_IN". Later we did not changed the
>> > "bn" translations into "bn_BD".
>>
>> Meaning you should have changed it from "bn" to "bn_BD"?
>
> Actually we thought/think, as Bengali is the *national* language of
> Bangladesh and the number of speaker is highest in Bangladesh, bn will go
> for bn_BD by default. :)
>
>> OK, it sounds like "bn_BD" is good for SquirrelMail.
>>
>> We're just about finished!
>>
>> Thanks again!

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