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Just to conclude my train of thought here, I'm looking at a promising
possibility called Modoboa - it's a system somewhat like maia, but uses
django and vue instead of php for the web interface. Looks very promising.
I'll be putting it through its paces.

Good luck.

Joe

On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 8:56 AM jjs - mainphrame <jjs-5OBBLe+cWrVYgzK/[email protected]> wrote:

> Much as it pains me to say it, if the maia web interface is not updated to
> work with current software versions, I'll have to end this chapter, It's
> been a good run. We rolled out maia, with a support contract, to 6000 users
> at Toyota back in the early 2000s, and it beat all the available commercial
> solutions. Our east coast plant had spent nearly half a million dollars on
> a well known commercial solution, but in the end, they asked us to let them
> route their incoming mail through our maia system instead. It
> performed flawlessly. I'm gratified to see that all the perl code from 2005
> works perfectly today, with the latest OS releases. The php component
> turned out to be the achilles heel.
>
> I've reached out to Robert LeBlanc and haven't heard back, so it doesn't
> look good at this point.
>
> I suppose the next best thing would be to have spamassassin, and possibly
> amavis, just tag suspected spam, deliver it and let my MUA sort it out.
> That simplifies things by eliminating the need for a web interface, and
> letting the end user mail program handle the details.
>
> In the meantime I'll be on the lookout for any maia alternatives that I
> can recommend to others.
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:21 PM jjs - mainphrame <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Janky,
>>
>> I agree, the web situation is ugly, but the rest of it works so well I
>> continue to hope that it might be updated.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, have you tried mailscanner?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:15 PM Janky Jay, III <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, it is no longer in ports since the project died upstream
>>> and PHP7 on FBSD is unsupported. I was the port maintainer and finally, but
>>> sadly, submitted its removal about 6 months ago.
>>>
>>> In all honesty, and it hurts me in my soul to say this, I would highly
>>> suggest moving away from Maia-Mailguard. I ended up migrating to Rspamd
>>> (very easy migration) which takes a more modern approach and no longer
>>> requires a web UI. Spam/Ham is learned via IMAP mail movements so there
>>> isn't any user interface to maintain. Makes things very simple and you can
>>> incorporate all kinds of goodies with it from SpamAssassin scoring to
>>> ClamAV scanning to blacklist/whitelist to DMARC/SPF, etc... I just really
>>> don't want to see anyone taking a hit by running such a vulnerable version
>>> of PHP.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents.
>>>
>>> On 9/9/25 01:02PM, jjs - mainphrame wrote:
>>>
>>> I know of several mailguard users on FreeBSD.
>>>
>>> If it's not in ports, I think it comes from this repo -
>>> https://github.com/technion/maia_mailguard
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 11:49 AM jason hirsh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.  I really liked Mailguard  Bur.. I am on FreeBSD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 9, 2025, at 2:43 PM, jjs - mainphrame <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some have reported issues reading the text in my OP, so here's a
>>>> screenshot
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 10:32 AM jjs - mainphrame <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My os upgrades for the maia service here are complete, to the extent
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything runs beautifully on Debian 13, with the exception, of
>>>>> course, of the web portal, which must for now at least, remain on php
>>>>> 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> If only The web component could be updated, maia would be golden.
>>>>>
>>>>> Old                                     New
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> maia servers
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> os              Debian 11               Debian 13
>>>>> maiad           1.0.4.1524              1.0.4.1524
>>>>> postfix         3.5.25                  3.10.4
>>>>> spamassassin    3.4.6                   4.0.1
>>>>> clamav          1.09                    1.4.3
>>>>> perl            5.32                    5.40
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> db server
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> os              Centos 7                Debian 13
>>>>> db              mariadb 5.5.68          mariadb 11.8.3
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> web portal
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> os              Debian 11
>>>>> httpd           2.4.65
>>>>> php             7.4.33
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> pop/imap server
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> os              Centos 7                Debian 13
>>>>> pop/imap        dovecot 2.2.36          dovecot 2.4.1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
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