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"P.J. Tezza" <[email protected]> Wed, 10 Sep 2025 10:20:05 -0700
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Like others here, I am still running Maia because it continues to work. From earlier posts, it looks like moving the Perl code to modern Debian is straightforward and now the main issue is that the PHP code can't run on modern PHP without changes. Having worked on projects like this in the past, my guess is that upgrading the PHP code to the latest and greatest probably isn't a big deal. If there will be more than just me using it, I could be convinced to work on it. In the past, I've been using Ubuntu, but it looks like Debian 13 might be more popular for this project? PJ On 9/10/25 9:35 AM, jjs - mainphrame wrote: > Just to conclude my train of thought here, I'm looking at a promising > possibility called Modoboa - it's a system somewhat like maia, but > uses django and vue instead of php for the web interface. Looks very > promising. I'll be putting it through its paces. > > Good luck. > > Joe > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 8:56 AM jjs - mainphrame <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Much as it pains me to say it, if the maia web interface is not > updated to work with current software versions, I'll have to end > this chapter, It's been a good run. We rolled out maia, with a > support contract, to 6000 users at Toyota back in the early 2000s, > and it beat all the available commercial solutions. Our east coast > plant had spent nearly half a million dollars on a well known > commercial solution, but in the end, they asked us to let them > route their incoming mail through our maia system instead. It > performed flawlessly. I'm gratified to see that all the perl code > from 2005 works perfectly today, with the latest OS releases. The > php component turned out to be the achilles heel. > > I've reached out to Robert LeBlanc and haven't heard back, so > it doesn't look good at this point. > > I suppose the next best thing would be to have spamassassin, and > possibly amavis, just tag suspected spam, deliver it and let my > MUA sort it out. That simplifies things by eliminating the need > for a web interface, and letting the end user mail program handle > the details. > > In the meantime I'll be on the lookout for any maia alternatives > that I can recommend to others. > > Joe > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:21 PM jjs - mainphrame > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Janky, > > I agree, the web situation is ugly, but the rest of it works > so well I continue to hope that it might be updated. > > Just out of curiosity, have you tried mailscanner? > > Joe > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:15 PM Janky Jay, III > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, it is no longer in ports since the project > died upstream and PHP7 on FBSD is unsupported. I was the > port maintainer and finally, but sadly, submitted its > removal about 6 months ago. > > In all honesty, and it hurts me in my soul to say this, I > would highly suggest moving away from Maia-Mailguard. I > ended up migrating to Rspamd (very easy migration) which > takes a more modern approach and no longer requires a web > UI. Spam/Ham is learned via IMAP mail movements so there > isn't any user interface to maintain. Makes things very > simple and you can incorporate all kinds of goodies with > it from SpamAssassin scoring to ClamAV scanning to > blacklist/whitelist to DMARC/SPF, etc... I just really > don't want to see anyone taking a hit by running such a > vulnerable version of PHP. > > Just my two cents. > > On 9/9/25 01:02PM, jjs - mainphrame wrote: >> I know of several mailguard users on FreeBSD. >> >> If it's not in ports, I think it comes from this repo - >> https://github.com/technion/maia_mailguard >> >> Joe >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 11:49 AM jason hirsh >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks. I really liked Mailguard Bur.. I am on FreeBSD >> >> >> >>> On Sep 9, 2025, at 2:43 PM, jjs - mainphrame >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Some have reported issues reading the text in my OP, >>> so here's a screenshot >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 10:32 AM jjs - mainphrame >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> My os upgrades for the maia service here are >>> complete, to the extent possible. >>> >>> Everything runs beautifully on Debian 13, with >>> the exception, of course, of the web portal, >>> which must for now at least, remain on php 7. >>> >>> If only The web component could be updated, maia >>> would be golden. >>> >>> Old New >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> maia servers >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> os Debian 11 Debian 13 >>> maiad 1.0.4.1524 1.0.4.1524 >>> postfix 3.5.25 3.10.4 >>> spamassassin 3.4.6 4.0.1 >>> clamav 1.09 1.4.3 >>> perl 5.32 5.40 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> db server >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> os Centos 7 Debian 13 >>> db mariadb 5.5.68 mariadb >>> 11.8.3 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> web portal >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> os Debian 11 >>> httpd 2.4.65 >>> php 7.4.33 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> pop/imap server >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> os Centos 7 Debian 13 >>> pop/imap dovecot 2.2.36 dovecot >>> 2.4.1 >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maia-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >>> >>> <maia-migration.png>_______________________________________________ >>> Maia-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maia-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users > > _______________________________________________ > Maia-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Maia-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users _______________________________________________ Maia-users mailing list [email protected] http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users