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"P.J. Tezza" <[email protected]> Wed, 10 Sep 2025 16:43:03 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.mail.virus.maiamailguard |
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It looks like Debian 13 uses php8.4: https://packages.debian.org/trixie/php8.4. I took a quick look at the Maia PHP source code on my working system. The PHP requirements are checked in admin/configtest.php. I don't see any obvious issues. With luck, modern versions of all the dependencies are available and backwards compatible. PJ On 9/10/25 11:08 AM, Lawrence Mulder wrote: > Interest for sure in staying on Maia. > > Thanks, > -Larry > > > *From:* [email protected] > *Sent:* September 10, 2025 1:33 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Maia-users] (no subject) > > > While I'm looking at alternatives, I would definitely stay on maia if > the php problems were solved. There is interest, for sure. > > Joe > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:20 AM P.J. Tezza <[email protected]> wrote: > > Like others here, I am still running Maia because it continues to > work. > > From earlier posts, it looks like moving the Perl code to modern > Debian is straightforward and now the main issue is that the PHP > code can't run on modern PHP without changes. Having worked on > projects like this in the past, my guess is that upgrading the PHP > code to the latest and greatest probably isn't a big deal. If > there will be more than just me using it, I could be convinced to > work on it. In the past, I've been using Ubuntu, but it looks like > Debian 13 might be more popular for this project? > > PJ > > On 9/10/25 9:35 AM, jjs - mainphrame wrote: >> Just to conclude my train of thought here, I'm looking at a >> promising possibility called Modoboa - it's a system somewhat >> like maia, but uses django and vue instead of php for the web >> interface. Looks very promising. I'll be putting it through its >> paces. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Joe >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 8:56 AM jjs - mainphrame >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Much as it pains me to say it, if the maia web interface is >> not updated to work with current software versions, I'll have >> to end this chapter, It's been a good run. We rolled out >> maia, with a support contract, to 6000 users at Toyota back >> in the early 2000s, and it beat all the available commercial >> solutions. Our east coast plant had spent nearly half a >> million dollars on a well known commercial solution, but in >> the end, they asked us to let them route their incoming mail >> through our maia system instead. It performed flawlessly. I'm >> gratified to see that all the perl code from 2005 works >> perfectly today, with the latest OS releases. The php >> component turned out to be the achilles heel. >> >> I've reached out to Robert LeBlanc and haven't heard back, so >> it doesn't look good at this point. >> >> I suppose the next best thing would be to have spamassassin, >> and possibly amavis, just tag suspected spam, deliver it and >> let my MUA sort it out. That simplifies things by eliminating >> the need for a web interface, and letting the end user mail >> program handle the details. >> >> In the meantime I'll be on the lookout for any maia >> alternatives that I can recommend to others. >> >> Joe >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:21 PM jjs - mainphrame >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Janky, >> >> I agree, the web situation is ugly, but the rest of it >> works so well I continue to hope that it might be updated. >> >> Just out of curiosity, have you tried mailscanner? >> >> Joe >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:15 PM Janky Jay, III >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, it is no longer in ports since the >> project died upstream and PHP7 on FBSD is >> unsupported. I was the port maintainer and finally, >> but sadly, submitted its removal about 6 months ago. >> >> In all honesty, and it hurts me in my soul to say >> this, I would highly suggest moving away from >> Maia-Mailguard. I ended up migrating to Rspamd (very >> easy migration) which takes a more modern approach >> and no longer requires a web UI. Spam/Ham is learned >> via IMAP mail movements so there isn't any user >> interface to maintain. Makes things very simple and >> you can incorporate all kinds of goodies with it from >> SpamAssassin scoring to ClamAV scanning to >> blacklist/whitelist to DMARC/SPF, etc... I just >> really don't want to see anyone taking a hit by >> running such a vulnerable version of PHP. >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> On 9/9/25 01:02PM, jjs - mainphrame wrote: >>> I know of several mailguard users on FreeBSD. >>> >>> If it's not in ports, I think it comes from this >>> repo - https://github.com/technion/maia_mailguard >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 11:49 AM jason hirsh >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. I really liked Mailguard Bur.. I am on >>> FreeBSD >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2025, at 2:43 PM, jjs - mainphrame >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Some have reported issues reading the text in >>>> my OP, so here's a screenshot >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 10:32 AM jjs - >>>> mainphrame <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My os upgrades for the maia service here >>>> are complete, to the extent possible. >>>> >>>> Everything runs beautifully on Debian 13, >>>> with the exception, of course, of the web >>>> portal, which must for now at least, remain >>>> on php 7. >>>> >>>> If only The web component could be updated, >>>> maia would be golden. >>>> >>>> Old New >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> maia servers >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> os Debian 11 >>>> Debian 13 >>>> maiad 1.0.4.1524 >>>> 1.0.4.1524 >>>> postfix 3.5.25 3.10.4 >>>> spamassassin 3.4.6 4.0.1 >>>> clamav 1.09 1.4.3 >>>> perl 5.32 5.40 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> db server >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> os Centos 7 >>>> Debian 13 >>>> db mariadb 5.5.68 >>>> mariadb 11.8.3 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> web portal >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> os Debian 11 >>>> httpd 2.4.65 >>>> php 7.4.33 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> pop/imap server >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> os Centos 7 >>>> Debian 13 >>>> pop/imap dovecot 2.2.36 >>>> dovecot 2.4.1 >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maia-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >>>> >>>> <maia-migration.png>_______________________________________________ >>>> Maia-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maia-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maia-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maia-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users > _______________________________________________ > Maia-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Maia-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users _______________________________________________ Maia-users mailing list [email protected] http://www.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/maia-users