Re: dif juz and other extractions

"william alberque" <[email protected]>
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you should also check out two forgotten but incredible bands: bark psychosis 
and disco inferno.  b.p.'s hex album still stands as a monument to gorgeous 
songwriting and it's just criminal that they didn't get recognition.  disco 
inferno's in debt is 70 minutes of some of the best guitar music you'll ever 
hear - piano magic covered a disco inferno track, though they could have 
just as easily put the original on their record and few would have noticed.

regarding dif juz, if you like vibrating air, get the "out of the trees" 
collection, which puts vibrating air and huremics on the same cd.  you might 
also buy "mirror pool", because i believe out of the trees is remastered - i 
don't think the huremics on mirror pool has the vocal track.  anyway.  i 
think extractions, their next 4ad album, is sort of a letdown if you come 
from the first two eps, through "who says so?" (a fantastic but incredibly 
rare 12" vinyl release on - what, red flame?  red rhino?) and the pleasantly 
surprised cassette ("when the spirit moves them"?).  the drummer (richard 
thomas) - if i've got this right - went on to play in tons of bands, 
including the cocteau twins when they played live here in d.c., and moose, 
and others.

as for other fraser-related matierals, christ there's a ton, but you'd do 
well to track down the ep she worked on with fuel - wildfire.  good one.

william

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Date: 17 Oct 2002 13:17:24 -0000


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       1. Dif Juz and related things
            From: "nickwalsh.rm" <[email protected]>
       2. Re: Dif Juz and related things
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       3. Re: Dif Juz and related things
            From: "nickwalsh.rm" <[email protected]>
       4. Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things
            From: Arik <[email protected]>
       5. Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things
            From: "José Enrique Plata Manjarrés" 
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       6. Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things
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Message: 1
    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:55:16 -0000
    From: "nickwalsh.rm" <[email protected]>
Subject: Dif Juz and related things

Hello,
I'm new here so please be very nice to me. I'm also just exiting
pimply youthhood so excuse anything that could be considered
ignorance in the following message.

I have been interested in and collecting tracks by the Cocteau Twins
over the past 2 years (and I really like that stuff) due to a
recommendation from a friend. He also recommended Dif Juz at the time
and I've just managed to find an EP called Vibrating Air which is
very good. I want to know what Dif Juz stuff I should look out for (I
understand they didn't release much). Or should I just try to buy
every release?

Are there any other artists/bands I should check out in a similar
vein? I also like The Smiths (sometimes) if that helps you get an
idea of what I'm into. I'm also interested in this Pop Ambient stuff
coming out of the german minimal label Kompakt but what that's got to
do with 4AD I have no idea...

I have some other questions: Where can I get a history/full discog of
4AD? Why do people discuss Gus Gus/FSOL on here? I don't really like
that stuff too much... I'll add some context another time...

Take care,
Nick:)



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Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:01:13 EDT
    From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Dif Juz and related things

In a message dated 10/16/2002 8:57:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:


 >  have some other questions: Where can I get a history/full discog of
 > 4AD? Why do people discuss Gus Gus/FSOL on here? I don't really like
 > that stuff too much... I'll add some context another time...
 >

Check out http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html.  Gus Gus used to be on 4ad, and
they have some great stuff.  FSOL has tracks with Liz Frazer on them.


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Message: 3
    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:07:07 -0000
    From: "nickwalsh.rm" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Dif Juz and related things

Hi,
thanks for the reply (and quick too!!!)

 > >  have some other questions: Where can I get a history/full discog
of
 > > 4AD? Why do people discuss Gus Gus/FSOL on here? I don't really
like
 > > that stuff too much... I'll add some context another time...
 > >
 >
 > Check out http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html.  Gus Gus used to be on
4ad, and
 > they have some great stuff.

I've intended to have a good hard listen to their stuff but I have
only a limited amount of cash.

The link doesn't work BTW.

 > FSOL has tracks with Liz Frazer on them.

I don't really hate FSOL...

I love them... Liz Frazer has sang with everybody!!!

Thanks again,
Nick:)



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Message: 4
    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Arik <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things

http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html
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 > The link doesn't work BTW.
 >
without the period

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Message: 5
    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:29:27 +0000
    From: "José Enrique Plata Manjarrés" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things



You could also have some other tracks from Elizabeth Fraser on albums by
FELT, Medicine and Peace Together (An album released in 1993). There are
also nice tracks from Dif Juz and Cocteau Twins on The Lonely is an Eyesore
compilation from 1987.

And about minimal electronic music form Germany you may listen to artists
like Microstoria, Pole, Schneider TM, Jan Jelinek, Safety Scissors, Mouse on
Mars, and latinoamerican artists like Gustavo Lamas, Trineo and others.
There are several interestinga labels with these sounds like: Traum, Scape,
Sonig, Mille Plateaux and Frágil Discos (Argentina)

Recently Luaka Bop released and album called The Only Blip Hop album you´ll
need to know. Check it in http://207.250.122.203/BlipHop/index.htm or
www.comparativesound.com

Saludos desde Bogotá, Colombia
José Enrique Plata M.




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 >Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
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 >http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html
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 > > The link doesn't work BTW.
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 >without the period
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Message: 6
    Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:41:15 +0100
    From: Colder Than Snow <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Dif Juz and related things

what about the one track on Standing up Straight by Wolf Gang Press, this
also has Elizabeth Fraser on one of those tracks, then there is also the
last Massive attack one too, this is worth checking out, this  is called
Mezzanine. Also you could check out the Piano Magic too




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