Re: Firefighters did the Christian thing in letting house burn to the ground

"Mike Findlay" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.dadl.ot
Message-ID <9357B9521D304CC6A4C83129FF2EABE0@MikePC>
> Of course, possible negative consequences for the firefighters,
> personally, have zero relation to whether or not they have a moral
> obligation. I should hope we can at least agree on *that.*

I don't mean to sound condescending, but have you thought that through?  Are 
you suggesting that we have a moral obligation to be heroic?

In their job as firefighters it they are legitimately assigned to fight a 
fire then they have a moral obligation to perform the duties of their job. 
But if they are off duty, (actually that's a good question - are you 
suggesting that an off duty fireman driving by has a moral obligation to 
stop, risk his own life and try to put out the fire?), there is no duty and 
therefore no moral obligation.

Mike F.






>> I think that should help mitigate
>> any moral obligation you think they may have.
>
> Ah, ain't life so much easier when we can mitigate our moral obligations? 
> :^P
>
> Look, I'm not discounting the possible societal reverberations you
> guys have raised. The questions about who, then, will buy the services
> in the future, etc., are worth looking at and hammering out. But there
> is simply no reason these questions could not have been hammered out
> *after* everyone pulled together like reasonable human beings to save
> a family's home from destruction. *Then* dust yourselves off,
> acknowledge that a problem here exists, and go from there.
>
>> No, I said they don't have a moral obligation to.  Nor would I as a
>> helpful neighbor.  My wife might say to me..don't go help, you might get
>> killed..and I might weigh the situation and agree with her.  I don't 
>> think
>> I should be condemned for not running into a burning building.
>
> Why would anyone have been running into the building? There was nobody
> inside, right? And they were already in proximity of the fire, because
> they were defending the neighbor's house.
>
>>> I say when any entity
>>> is doing something that no individual would or could defend, there is
>>> a problem. If I recall correctly, you are against corporations for
>>> that very reason.
>>
>> I am.  But I don't think this is something that no individual would or
>> could defend.
>
> I can't discount your opinion, but I call shenanigans on that. I have
> a feeling that if your home was burning to the ground and some guy was
> leaning on your fencepost holding a firehouse, but refused to point it
> in your direction, you'd consider that guy an asshole. I believe
> anyone would.
>
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