>**sure, that justifies it.
*sigh* I said nothing about justifying anything, Karl. You are being combative and insultive when I am trying to find some middle ground.
**Why exactly is there a demand to find oral equivalency here? And can we also point out how many massacres have been committed by muslims too?
Go right ahead. Atrocities committed by Muslims are a matter of record. But then, it's not relevent to what I was getting at. My point was merely that there is now-as in the past a heavy mixing of political and religion that fuels the rage of terrorists-regardless of the religious background. here have been times in history where the great acts of cruelty were by people claiming to be Christians. But many of them were driven as much by political and power mad desire. It's so intertwined, it makes it unjust to merely connect it it so cleanly as "they were driven by their faith." Scott Raeder was driven by faith as well. But most Christian Pro-lifers wouldn't agree with his actions. I would say there is something political that pushes the terrorist's faith to justify evil acts. It is neither justification or moral equivelency...well, it is in the sense that both are wrong and evil. You seem to presume I am defending terrorists. In spite of never, ever making such a claim. But clearly, the mixture of politics and faith can have volitile results.
**and yet the attacks were still carried out in the name of Islam. Nothing you can do to marginalize this changes that.
For reasons beyond Islam as well. I am not marginalizing anything here. I am trying to discuss this in a balanced way...not minimize the actions of terrorists.
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>Muslims *did* attack us on 9/11, and their attacks were explicitly
>motivated by their faith.
Well, it was religiously and politically motivated... not unlike some of the massacres that occurred in Britiain between Catholics and Protestants (not just Northern Ireland-but throughout the 1500's on, as different british Kings took over and tried to institutionalize their preferred church).
**sure, that justifies it.
**Why exactly is there a demand to find oral equivalency here? And can we also point out how many massacres have been committed by muslims too?
There was a political component to the attacks that we have seen. Bin Laden did not merely turn on us out of mere religious conviction. It's just not as clean as you are making it sound.
**and yet the attacks were still carried out in the name of Islam. Nothing you can do to marginalize this changes that.
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