Re: David Prowse Almost Ruined TESB!

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Karl wrote:

> > Well, let's not confuse the issues here.  In Empire, the movie that 
> > turned Vader into Luke's father, Luke's sister and Princess Leia were 
> > still two different characters.  It wasn't until they wrote Jedi that 
> > Lucas, who was getting tired of Star Wars and didn't want to do any 
> > more sequels, decided to merge the two characters so he didn't have to 
> > introduce the sister.
>
> **more lucas evil revisionism?  No. I don't buy that at all.

Well, everyone involved in making the films agrees that Luke's sister was 
*not* Leia when they made Empire but, rather, was someone else who had 
been hidden on some distant planet.  This is why, among other things, Yoda 
knows about the "other" and Obi-Wan doesn't.  It is also difficult to 
fathom that Lucas would have let Luke and Leia kiss multiple times (only 
one of those scenes survived the cutting-room floor, though) if he had 
always intended to reveal that they were actually twin siblings.

> When Luke called Leia and she heard him it established a bond.

Yes, I remember many people assuming between '80 and '83 that Leia must 
have been the "other", simply because Luke called out to her.  But then, 
was there any reason to assume that people strong in the Force could 
*only* communicate with other people strong in the Force?

> That it was the bond of twins was a logical conclusion . . .

Actually, the "revelation" in Jedi that Leia, too, was one of Darth 
Vader's children came as a real surprise to me.  In the original Star 
Wars, it was implied that the Force was something anyone could train to be 
strong in; certainly there was nothing about Luke that indicated he was 
particularly strong in the Force *before* Obi-Wan started training him. 
It wasn't until Return of the Jedi that Force-strength became a *genetic* 
thing -- and it wasn't until the prequels that a *mechanism* for the 
genetic transmission of Force-strength was first proposed.

> > You mean, the redemption would have been more compelling if Luke had 
> > *not* been motivated by a family connection?
>
> **no, it would have been better if Vader had not been compelled to save 
> luke by his relationship.  As it was, the whole gotta go save dad, and 
> then dad saves me bit was so frigging lame and unoriginal.

Perhaps, but I think it's safe to say it was *unexpected*.  :)

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