>I am soooo not interested in the semantic debate over whether this or that technique fits under a >dictionary definition of "torture".
It's not actually a semantics debate (just because conservatives insist on calling it one does not make it so)...but understood.
>The only salient point here is that there is a huge, *huge* freaking difference between physically >probing people suspected of committing mass murder and physically probing random civilians (to >the point where prepubescent boys are being strip-searched in public).
>And yes, I know the TSA agents are just "doing their job". So?
Look, I don't like the new setup either...but the solution is not to treat TSA employees like a pervy boss who gropes his secretary because he enjoys doing it. There is not an equivelence there, either.
Thom
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From: Peter T. Chattaway <petert-LOVM4QxV+tDq6eQxt3vRmLDks+cytr/[email protected]>
To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 10:21 am
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Are Air Travelers Criminal Suspects?
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, [email protected] wrote:
> > Sorry, there's no equivalence there.
>
> Sure there is equivelence. One of the arguments for treating waterboard > as "not torture" after centuries of it being considered torture (please > note, up until the Bush aministration it was considered torture-and > America has put people to death for it) was that we would be putting all > those torturers in "harm's way" (they could be sued or go to jail) for > simply "doing their job."
I am soooo not interested in the semantic debate over whether this or that technique fits under a dictionary definition of "torture".
The only salient point here is that there is a huge, *huge* freaking difference between physically probing people suspected of committing mass murder and physically probing random civilians (to the point where prepubescent boys are being strip-searched in public).
And yes, I know the TSA agents are just "doing their job". So?
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