Re: Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths

The point is that the government has abused it's need for secrecy to  
the point of absurdity and it is time to bust it all wide open.  If  
there is minor collateral damage, then so be it.  It is for the  
greater  good to keep government power in check.
Also, the press is either an abysmal failure or else it has become  
just another arm of state power.
either way...viva la internet!

regards,
-Lance

On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Karl wrote:

> Wait, construction plans are a civil liberty?  Really?
>
> Yes, I agree, keeping the plans hidden is stupid, but calling that a  
> civil liberty issue just seems like we are cheapening the concept  
> more than it already is.
>
> You say “doing crap like this”, but I am failing to see a victim  
> here.  This is not thuggary, this is stupid bureaucracy.
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]  
> On Behalf Of Lance McLain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:16 PM
> To: DADL (off topic)
> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Don't shoot messenger for revealing  
> uncomfortable truths
>
> You know, when we have government doing crap like this with  
> impunity...I think a good dose of wikileaks is in order.
> The government is supposed to be of the people, by the people, for  
> the people....but they sure don't want the people knowing what they  
> are doing. Is there nothing that the government can't claim needs to  
> be secret?
>
> regards,
> -Lance
>
> http://www.nj.com/news/local/index.ssf/2010/12/aclu_sues_state_for_keeping_hu.html
>
> The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against the  
> state after it refused to release the construction plans for a barn  
> used to store road salt, on the basis that doing so would be a  
> security risk.
> [...]
> Chiaffarano filed an OPRA request for the state's building plans,  
> but was denied her request as the state cited a 2002 executive order  
> by Gov. James McGreevey.
> The order, issued in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on  
> the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, allows the state to decline  
> the release of public records that would compromise the state's  
> ability to "protect and defend the state and its citizens against  
> acts of sabotage or terrorism."
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