Re: Ricky Gervais as Master of Ceremonies, Not Civility

"Karl" <[email protected]>
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On a serious note, his context was actually more conclusive than I thought when
you actually saw it, as the reporting truncated it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/01/16/aaron_sorkin_elite_is_not_a_ba
d_word_its_an_aspirational_one.html
 
He specified “female nominees” which does indicate it to be more industry
specific, as Mike and Peter noted, as opposed to the more disdainful examples
like Paris Hilton or such, or the more political examples.
 
That said, I might disagree that all the nominees this year were actually
Hollywood elite, but still….
 
 
 
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Pot, kettle, etc.   ; p

Johne Cook
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Karl <[email protected]> wrote:
Here we go again…..
 
;)
 
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Elite can mean 'extreme excellence at something,' and it can mean 'class
snobbery.' Context is key.

Johne Cook
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Lance McLain <lance-X3DuywwxauBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
I jerked too.  I have no problem with elite being "the best" however too often
these days the baggage that comes with elite is that it has come at the expense
of exploiting the non-elite.

regards,
-Lance


On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Karl wrote:
Its mostly just me I think.  The word elite has been used fairly negatively
recently, so I think this was just my jerking knee.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Karl wrote:
Aaron Sorkin alluded to the culture wars, thanking the women in the
room for proving to his daughter that  elite is not a bad word,
it s an aspirational one.  

Honestly I am not even sure what that means is it apparently now ok
to be an elitist?

"Elite" is good.  "Elitist", maybe not so much.
Kind of like the distinction between "Islam" and "Islamist".

**either sounds a bit arrogant.

Whatever.  I want to watch movies made by the *best* filmmakers, not just
average filmmakers.  And I want my country to be led by the *best* politicians,
not just average politicians.  Etc., etc., etc.

What's so bad about *that*?

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