Re: UNCIVIL UNIONS
Mike Findlay <[email protected]>
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>Yes. Multiple parties have fault. One side got overwhelmingly punished. Traditionally, lenders are responsible to calculate and carry the risk of default. The arbitrage is where the poor and middle class parties lost their money and their credit and their jobs and their homes, the tax payers paid for stimulus and bailout, and the reckless financiers made record bonuses. Heads I win, tails you lose is a great financial innovation.< To the extent its relevant the Bible has some pretty harsh things to say to those who act like the lenders did in the real estate bubble burst. They enticed, (entrapped if you will), people into many of those deals appealing to and manipulating human nature to want something for nothing and convincing people they could really have just that. Of course people bear responsibility for their own actions but woe to those who prey on the vulnerable and manipulate them for gain. I will always be convinced that it was the asshole energy speculators that are significant part of the real estate crash. When gas was $2/gallon people could get by on their interest only loans even if they were stretched to the limit - they could essentially live beyond their reasonable means and make it work if their costs remained level. But when those scumbags started spinning the roulette wheel on energy prices and gas went beyond $3/gallon and higher the shit hit the fan. When you are already stretched to the limit you can't withstand any further pull, and if there is some something has to give. Mortgages are long term, payments usually once a month. But you have to buy gas weekly if not more, in order to get back and forth to work from the luxury home further from work that you never thought you'd be able to live in until mortgage rates went so low due to the fed printing machine and default credit swaps being turned into AAA rated investment vehicles that swine at Morgan Stanley could peddle to their dupes running pension funds, etc, etc,. Something had to give and it only stands to reason that the most precarious, built like a house of cards, fraudulent thing is what gave. >I'm no sociologist, but the Dept of Health and Human Services puts the poverty line at $18,530/yr for a family of three, and if anything I'd say that's perhaps a little low (obviously poverty can also depend on the region's cost of living and a person's previously accumulated assets).< The working poor boggle my mind and probably deserve the most respect of any sector of our economy. Surrounded by takers on both sides they continue to toil trying to make an honest living. I know they are only doing the right thing but with so few examples of others doing the same and so many examples of others fleecing the system, (of which the working poor are a part of), it is a marvel they continue and they should be encouraged. Mike F. -- dadl-ot mailing list http://mail.thehood.us/mailman/listinfo/dadl-ot_thehood.us http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.dadl.ot