Re: The one piece on what's happening in WI you must read

Mike Findlay <[email protected]>
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>For the record, I'm not opposed to the unions being taken down a notch
and employees getting pay cuts during a recession.  I am opposed to
lies and political spin to justify it and demonize the opposition when
they have been holding up their end of the contract and the pension
fund managers had been negligent with theirs.  You don't need to lie
in order to justify pay cuts during a recession, especially when the
political will has turned towards ending the deficit.<

I'm sorry but the private sector got off defined benefit pension plans years 
ago, there is absolutely no reason why the public sector should still be 
entitled to them.  The mismanagement of the pension funds is a separate issue.  
And do we know who managed those pension funds?  WI has been, historically, a 
pretty progressive leaning state so whether it was state employed bureaucrats or 
union heads in charge of managing those funds it was those same progressives who 
screwed it up.   Why would we give them any credence now in terms of how these 
negotiations should be handled? 



>More importantly, I see the entire union debate as cover fire for the
*real* corruption (e.g. no bid fire sales of state assets). <

Do you have a source for this, if you posted if before I missed it.  But if a 
fire sale is necessary it is necessary and I don't think one is automatically a 
bad thing.  A $3.6 bil, (IIRC), shortfall in a state's budget seems like a good 
reason to have a fire sale of your assets.  And what assets exactly should 
governments be holding?  


Mike F.

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