Re: Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...

And what did her campaign do with it? Nothing. It should have ended there.
If there was anything legitimate to use, the Clintons would have exploited
it.

Johne Cook
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Karl Swenson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Well, not necessarily.  First, I do not know if any of the previously
> mentioned things would matter for "natural born" citizenship, the
> presidency
> is the only one I know of.
>
> Second, this issue was initially raised by Hillary's campaign, so the
> democrats originally raised it on their own.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of pcg
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:08 PM
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> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...
>
> > The burden of proof rests on the one who makes the assertion.  If
> > Obama is the one asserting that he was born in the U.S., then it is up
> > to him to prove it, and no one is obliged to believe it just on his
> > say-so.  (Of course, we then get to the question of *standards* of
> > proof...)
> >
> > By the same token, of course, if anyone was asserting that Obama was
> > born in a specific place that was *not* the U.S., then the burden of
> > proof would be on them to prove *that* assertion, too.  And I guess
> > Obama had to be born *somewhere*, so maybe *everyone* had a burden of
> proof to meet.
>
> Perhaps. The thing is, Obama's citizenship had never been called into
> question throughout his entire academic, professional, and political
> career,
> and then suddenly certain parties, who had a vested interest in him *not*
> being a natural-born citizen, and for whom and for whom standard legal
> documentation isn't good enough, started claiming that he *wasn't* a
> citizen
> -- based on nothing more than speculation. While I appreciate your ability
> to see both sides of the argument, I think it's fair to say the burden of
> proof rested with them. :)
>
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