Re: Magic Menstrual Mummies

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What are you?  Anti-Semantic or sumthin?!
;)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Johne Cook <[email protected]>
To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Magic Menstrual Mummies

/Definitely/ don't want to get into Semantics - here there be dragons.  
;)

Johne Cook
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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Karl Swenson 
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Well in the context I mentioned different is directly equated to 
false, so
> there is no room for any discussion.
>
> I don't necessarily agree that simply because one church has differing
> views
> about Jesus then he must a different one, but I think we may be 
entering
> semantics here.
>
> Certainly when she and my Mormon uncles during prayer speak of a 
Jesus that
> died on the cross, that was god's son and their savior, he sorta 
sounds
> like
> the same fellow.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On
> Behalf Of Peter Chattaway
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:26 PM
> To: DADL (off topic)
> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Magic Menstrual Mummies
>
> On Tue May 24 23:36:15 PDT 2011, Karl Swenson wrote:
> > I find no use for it.  My grandmother died a few years ago.  She
> > devoted the later part of her life around the time my grandfather 
died
> > to her church, prayed daily and tried to raise her children right.
> > She always prayed in the name of her Lord and savior Jesus who died
> > for her sins.  And according to many, she is in Hell now as her 
church
> was
> LDS, and that was a Different JesusR.
>
> FWIW, I have no interest in saying who "goes to hell" and who 
doesn't.  But
> I don't think it's necessarily wrong to say that Mormons (or Muslims, 
etc.)
> believe in a different Jesus than we do.  I mean, if we take their 
theology
> at its word, than we have to acknowledge that they believe different 
things
> about Jesus than we do -- *very* different things, in some ways.
>
> Most Christian denominations have split off from one another not 
because
> they believe different things about Jesus, but because they believe
> different things about the Church, or about the specific way in which 
God
> is
> supposed to be redeeming the world now through the Body of Christ.  
But
> these, it seems to me, are smaller differences than the differences 
that
> divide small-o orthodox Christians from Mormons, Muslims and others 
who
> deny
> the divinity of Christ or, alternatively, have redefined divinity in 
some
> radical way.
>
> And, to repeat: having different beliefs about Jesus does not, in and 
of
> itself, send someone to heaven or hell, in my opinion.  I can't 
believe the
> real Jesus would be so petty.
>
>
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