Re: Marine killed in his own home

>I am pointing out how much is assumptive and knee jerk here when the actual

facts show pretty much nothing. <

I thinkt the above shows up as the quintessential example "logic and reason 
get<ting> hammered by emotion"

There is a myriad of facts in this matter.  There is more than enough to make 
reasonable inferences based on circumstantial evidence.  Those facts and that 
evidence point in the direction that a man was murdered by police in his own 
home, (I don't have to define murder do I?  I'm using the term in a broad legal 
sense and not specifying a degree).  I'm not suggesting it is proof beyond a 
reasonable doubt, but it certainly raised a prima facia case and I'd say that at 
least the preponderance of evidence we do have points in that direction.  I'd 
also note that the people in control of the evidence are hiding/withholding it.  
In court I would get an instruction from the judge to the jury that they could 
assume that the evidence being withheld/missing was against the party 
withholding/hiding it.

So please stop with the head in the sand approach that we don't have facts and 
that you are the only one seeing/looking rationally at this.   


Mike F.  


 The one fact is that a guy is dead, 71 shots fired with 60 striking him.  No 
evidence of 


All we are doing is using this to nurse our pet peeves and that's fine, but
quit pretending we are discussing the case anymore.

I don't have a problem pointing out when logic and reason get hammered by
emotion.

This was an isolated event that needs to be fully investigated and the
parties responsible for it held accountable.  I have never said otherwise.
My initial point was that using this to justify ending the drug war is
pointless.

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Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Marine killed in his own home

I established my bona fides in the tangent. No need to revisit them again
just because you aren't accepting them.

Karl, reading your posts in this thread is aggravating. Usually, people come
at something from a clear perspective. You're arguing both sides of the
thread and embellishing your own tangential points. It's almost as if you
enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing. There's no joy down that road.

Johne Cook
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Karl Swenson <[email protected]>wrote:

> I assume you base this on intimate knowledge of their training?  This 
> department in specific?
>
> The death was a sad mistake, and one he may have contributed to.  His 
> being shot and left to die and the paramedics barred is the worst tragedy.
>
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