Re: Re: Old guy needs help with compressors

Ya know, I got to be stupid!  

Why the hell didn't I think of going to Guitar Center, or actually any one of a half dozen music stores in the area and simply try a few pedals out.  

Thanx Brian!  

'da ol' SmokeDog, the dunderhead!
PS. 

I read the reviews but I still haven't got a clue.  


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>From: bluesbrian <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:35:09 PM
>Subject: [Bass Place] Re: Old guy needs help with compressors
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>Although I have not tried it, I have also heard that the EBS MultiComp is a good one. Note that the customer reviews are nothing but "glowing"!
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>http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/EBS-MultiComp-True-Dual-Band-compressor-Pedal?sku=151466
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>http://tinyurl. com/nba3ln
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>I have the DigiTech XBS Bass Squeeze Compressor Pedal
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>http://bass- guitars.musician sfriend.com/ product/DigiTech -XBS-Bass- Squeeze-Compress or-Pedal? sku=150826
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>http://tinyurl. com/m82nme
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>Note that it is not a limiter, so if you're looking for that part of the equation, might as well look elsewhere.
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>I haven't used it much. It's easy to wreck your tone with it, so go easy. The customer reviews are a mixed bag, but if all you can swing is $69 .. then it's worth considering. (I think I got mine from a local Guitar Center store, where I could actually try it out. Of course, it will sound different on each bass and amp, so using a store rig won't tell the whole story. (hard to find the EBS multi-comp at a local shop.)
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>Note that Jeff Beck's bassist, Tal Wilkenfeld, is using EBS gear.. She is great! (probably could play great on any old gear!)
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>Enjoy.
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>// Brian
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>--- In bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com, mark monillas <alembic4@.. .> wrote:
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>> $199.00 @ musicianfriends
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>> Yo Victa, whatsoever you do, remember this here. You can't hold no groove, If you ain't got no pocket !
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>> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Steve Molk <bassmansince62@ ...> wrote:
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>> From: Steve Molk <bassmansince62@ ...>
>> Subject: Re: [Bass Place] Re: Old guy needs help with compressors
>> To: bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com
>> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 6:13 AM
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>> Just checked out the site. 
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>> The have a new compressor pedal!
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>> Do you know where they sell them?
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>> Thanx, Bro. 
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>> >From: john_lapietra <john_lapietra@ yahoo.com>
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>> >To: bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com
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>> >Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:28:27 PM
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>> >Subject: [Bass Place] Re: Old guy needs help with compressors
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>> >My 2cents for whatever it's worth... I own/play 8 basses- all of them active p/u's except one. I am dependant on using a compressor in both establishing my tone and playing style (believe it or not, so does Tony Levin- he uses these very rare vacuum tube compressors/ stomp size compressor made by a company from upstate New York that went out of business called Retrospect: good luck finding one, I've been searching for years..) I use a compressor more like a sustainer (also evens out the notes and at the same time enhances the tone IMHO anyhow) than a limiter (which squashes your signal)- so I always keep the attack delay near zero and my compression near max. I've tried many different expensive Rack Mount units: DBX, Ashley, Rocktron, Symetrics, ART, Alesis, RANE, Urie- to name a few- many of them worked GREAT for use as limiters and clipping out peak signals, just not for my personal applications. . One of my first stompbox compressors that gave me
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>> what I was looking for was a Vintage Ibanez CP9 (A little noisy until I modded it with military-grade caps and such)- which I still own as a "back up"- Other Stomp-box compressors I've tried; Boss, Keeley, DoD, MXR, Demeter, Arion, Tom Scholl's... just didn't have the gain/bite I was accustomed to. I own an ART Gold TUBE MP pre-amp and that gives me just enough if I use my vintage all tube heads (very clean too- right out of the box) but doesn't seem to have quite "enough" (even maxed out) when I use any of my solid state rigs. 
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>> >What I've discovered about 4 or 5 years ago, turned out to be the best compressor HANDS DOWN, I have ever used for my Live/Studio Applications. "EBS", a company from Sweden who has been making high-end targeted Bass Gear for decades-(Listen to early Stanley Clarke and you will hear Grey-Label series EBS effects. The latest Series of Bass stompbox gear is Called the "BLACK LABEL" series and features: All Analog Boutique-quality components, True-Bypass, Ruggedized Cases and Military Grade pots/switches, will use either 9volt batteries(for zero 60HZ hum) standard Boss input jacks/power supplies, and also a proprietary Phantom Power system which utilizes conventional 1/4" patch cords. For Product info see: http://www.ebs. bass.se/
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>> >The model I'm referring to is called the "Multi-Comp" and it is a true Dual Band Compressor that is both pro-quality and extremely simple to use- See the numerous positive reviews here:
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>> >I also own a B.L. "Uni-Chorus" & "Bass-IQ... plan on getting an OctaBass and all new Metaldrive, soon, to add to my collection.
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>> >Also in regard to Behringer- most of their stuff is built in China pretty chinsy, although their engineers are located in Germany and have made some noteworthy contributions in regard to innovative affordable music gear. You can get a lot of "bang for your buck". I personally don't like any of their stompboxes because they are all S.M.T. components, and you can't upgrade or mod them- plus most of their "effects" are mostly digital, and I personally prefer the warmth of Analog... Although I would never put my trust in one of their Power Amps (without one or two B.U's of course.. ha ha) there are plenty of Professional Live Sound Touring Companies that use truckloads of some of their rack gear for Live Sound Reinforcement- For instance their compressors are so "affordable" you can afford to have one limiter dedicated for each drum tom... 
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>> >Out of a half dozen Bass Rigs, I didn't own that would fit in the front seat of my Toyota Celica Convertible- I Love the sound of Hartke Aluminum-Cone speakers, but it seems as they've discontinued all the smaller "KickBack" combo 10's and 12's... all I could find locally were 15's and they were too large to fit in my sports car. I ended up buying a Behringer super compact single 12" slant-back combo: 
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>> >http://www.behringe r.com/EN/ Products/ BXL1800A. aspx
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>> >$250 Brand New with 1 year Warranty (like how could you go wrong there?). The onboard effects (especially the compressor and octaver) are completely worthless to me, but it actually has a great deal of headroom and great tone (sounds pretty much like a Hartke- since I own a bunch of them, I think I can make this statement)for that tiny little beast. Does it compare to my Vintage Ampeg B-15 port-a-flex Combo? Hell no... not even close... but it's also like 1/3 the size and weight, and for that, it suites my purpose- completely(have about 4 months left on the warranty and so far so good- been driving it HARD in a little practice room too!) Anyhow, sorry so long-winded, just thought I'd lend an opinion to a fellow old-man Bass player..
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>> >--- In bassplace@yahoogrou ps.com, Steve Molk <bassmansince62@ ...> wrote:
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>> >> Anybody know anything about compressor / limiters? 
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>> >> I don't now and have never used any kind of pedals at all on the Bass but I am thinking my new active 6 coulld benifit form a compressor.
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>> >> I see some good review about the Behringer pedals and they are really cheep too! (You know how those bass players lie ---- I do have a Behringer tuner pedal and it's "OK" ) 
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>> >> I see the CS-100 and CS-400 and they look exactly alike. Anybody know the differance? And whats with the "Dynamics Compressor? (Like the Behringer DC-9) what's the differance between it and any other compressor?  
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>> >> I know what dynamic compression (and dynamic expansion) is and how to use it in recording and audio aplications but the pedals have got me confused,,,, mostly by the dog and pony show the manufacturers put on with the advertising and specs. 
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