Re: SV: another Overtone...

the problem with additive synthesis is that you HAVE to analyze the
sound you want to obtain. so you need a software for FFT (Fast Fouries
Transform)... a lot of software do that, but of course you want to know
which harmonic and inharmonic partials are there, because you know that
2nd harmonic is fundamental frequency *2, third one is fundamental *3
etc., but it's not like you want to stare a screen that tells you the
relevant frequencies but does not inform you about harmonics... so you
need a software that AT LEAST will show the harmonic progression, so
you'll know if the partials of you sound are harmonic or inharmonic etc.
Overtone (not the Synthonyx one) is useful for this, because you can see
where harmonic partials are and where not.
http://www.aplu.ch/overtone/gifs/piano1.gif

but since you're not analyzing single cycle waveform, you have to check
your waveform at various time point, so you know how harmonics'
amplitude change...
for a quick time based analysis, you also need a time based FFT analysis
in 3D (frequency, time, loudness)
http://www.aplu.ch/overtone/gifs/water.gif

it's quite obvious that 8 DHG envelope generators with a limited number
of segments won't give the most realistic results, and sure enough the
K5 IS limited in acoustic sound resynthesis... and I'm not even
considering noise and inharmonic partials, which are components that are
always to be found in acoustic timbres...

you can try resysnthesis with Wave Analyzer too, it's in the files
section... it will resynthesize your starting waveform and it's useful
to obtain harmonic values data for the other parts of your sound... but
it's limited... also Overtone is a bit limited...

if you know what you're doing and you just want editors, in the files
section you'll find some. Dr. T's K5 editor is good. Download STEem
atari emulator and off you go.  Synthonyx Overtone should be good for
resynthesis, but it's Dos program. Unless you find a Dos emulator that
support Midi INput and OUTput, you'll have some problems... DosBox has
midi OUT but no midi in ATM.

so something can be done, but I feel like the available tools are not
the non-plus-ultra for the daunting task that is programming good
patches with your K5.

I'm constantly trying to find a good .wav analysis and resynthesis
program, but it's like an impossible mission...

especially if no one is helping.

same thing for additive synthesis programming book.

looks like people has secrets...

I guess none does program its own patches, or does that at random, or is
willing to die with its programming secrets...


Fabio

--- In [email protected], Michael <maggooster@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you.
> I sometimes visit a Free Geek computer "store"...  This is
> where people drop off their old PC's and Macs, and the volunteers
there
> recycle the machines into working or non-working machines.
>
> I didn't know it, but sometimes people drop off musical stuff too. I
didn't
> know what the K5m was sitting on the table, and didn't know it could
make a
> sound until I got it home.
>
> I also got an Akai MX73 midi controller for $10. Needed some MAJOR
cleaning
> (FULL of dust cattle!!!).
>
> So what is a decent , low priced, editor in the Windows variety?
>
> And which flavor of windows do I need / should I use?
>
> Thanks for the info.
>




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