Re: Re: I am thinking of buying a karma and am concerned about running out of seq me

Hey thats all good info. I've never ran into that
problem. I guess another work around would be to
record into patterns if you have repeated complex
phrases in your song. 

Another thing to note(no pun intended), is that the
specs on the korg site does say "200k notes" not
"events".

http://korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=KARMA&category_id=1

Thats false advertising right? I want my refund!

-Paul Duffey
sudosonic.com

--- "Eric J. Sawyer" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Here is a quote from the FAQs relating to this
> issue:
> 
> "1. I get "Sequencer Out Of Memory" messages when
> recording with
> the KARMA Function. The sequencer has a capacity of
> 200,000 events. 
> When you enable multi-track record, the available
> memory is divided 
> by the number of enabled tracks, and then by 2 (to
> allow for the 
> compare function). In other words, a memory buffer
> is provided for 
> each enabled track. If any track exceeds this buffer
> while 
> recording, you get the out-of-memory situation.
> 
> Here's an example: Assuming starting with an empty
> sequencer, if 16
> tracks are enabled, you have (200,000/16)/2, or
> 6,250 events per 
> track. Some KARMA GEs generate large amounts of MIDI
> data, when 
> there are 3 or 4 different CCs being generated, in
> addition to 
> notes, pitch bend info, etc. 6,250 events is not all
> that much, 
> especially where KARMA is concerned. In some combis,
> you could run 
> out of memory after 48 bars or so. But this is
> because ALL 16 TRACKS 
> ARE RECORD ENABLED. If you copy a Combi into the
> sequencer, at the 
> most you will be recording the output of 4 KARMA
> GEs, and maybe the 
> keyboard sound. If you only enable the tracks that
> are actually 
> being used, you greatly increase the amount of
> available memory for 
> recording.
> 
> A quick fix is to disable tracks 9-16 (assuming you
> copied a Combi to
> tracks 1-8, or the other way around if you copied to
> 9-16). In this 
> case, you've doubled the amount of available memory
> to 12,500 events 
> per track. But let's say you then go look at the
> channel routing 
> assignments, and determine that you can turn off 4
> other tracks that 
> are not actually being used - you've now quadrupled
> the available 
> memory 25,000 events per track! Note that if you are
> familiar with 
> the Triton, this is not any different than the
> Triton sequencer. One 
> difference is that KARMA generates large amounts of
> MIDI data, so 
> your events can get eaten up more quickly than using
> the Triton's 
> arpeggiators, for example.
> 
> There are 2 places to check for MIDI routing:
> (1) (3.1-1/2) [Menu]->[PRM1]->[MIDI...8] or
> [MIDI..16]
> 
> Here you can see which MIDI Channels are assigned to
> which tracks.
> (2) (6.1-2) [Menu]->[KARM]->[MIDI I/O] Here you can
> see which 
> timbres (on which channels) are actually being sent
> data from KARMA.
> + Parameter Guide, Pages 82, 104. Let's take a
> simple example. Combi 
> A016: Earthy Groove. As you can see by looking in
> both places, only 
> tracks 1, 2 and 3 (receiving on channels 2, 3 & 4)
> need to be 
> enabled to record, because they are the only tracks
> doing anything.
> Another (more complex) example: Combi A000:==Voice
> Of KARMA==
> Using Method (2) above, we see that KARMA Modules
> are generating on
> timbres 4,5,6,7 & 8. Using Method (1) above we also
> see that tracks 
> 1, 2 & 3 are on Channel 1, to be played live.
> However, here's 
> another interesting thing: in this case, tracks 1,2
> & 3 are all set 
> to MIDI Channel 1 (this is the LH Pad sound and the
> RH Lead Sound, 
> configured with key zones into a split). Even with
> multi track 
> record on and all tracks enabled, when you play on
> the keyboard the
> system only records 1 track of data (on to track 1),
> because the 
> other tracks are set to the same channel. Tracks 2 &
> 3 will record 
> nothing. However, because they are record enabled,
> they probably 
> still eat up potential available memory. The same
> thing goes with 
> tracks 7 and 8 (the KARMA drum groove), which are
> both receiving on 
> MIDI Channel 5. Even if both of these are enabled,
> data only gets 
> recorded on the first one. So in this case, to
> record just the KARMA 
> output (and have the most memory available), enable
> 4,5,6 and 7. To 
> record the live keyboard parts along with it, just
> additionally 
> enable track 1.
> 
> If all this sounds complicated, just remember that
> you don't have to 
> do this unless you are having problems running out
> of memory while
> recording. Many of you may never run into this
> problem."
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Cheers,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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