Re: I am thinking of buying a karma and am concerned about running out of seq me

Hi Paul,
   I noticed that too in the specs listed in the back of the Basic 
Guide.  The correct value should read 200,000 events not notes.
Cheers,
Eric

--- In [email protected], lucky champ <lucky_champ@y...> 
wrote:
>
> Hey thats all good info. I've never ran into that
> problem. I guess another work around would be to
> record into patterns if you have repeated complex
> phrases in your song. 
> 
> Another thing to note(no pun intended), is that the
> specs on the korg site does say "200k notes" not
> "events".
> 
> http://korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=KARMA&category_id=1
> 
> Thats false advertising right? I want my refund!
> 
> -Paul Duffey
> sudosonic.com
> 
> --- "Eric J. Sawyer" <doubleejprojects@y...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Here is a quote from the FAQs relating to this
> > issue:
> > 
> > "1. I get "Sequencer Out Of Memory" messages when
> > recording with
> > the KARMA Function. The sequencer has a capacity of
> > 200,000 events. 
> > When you enable multi-track record, the available
> > memory is divided 
> > by the number of enabled tracks, and then by 2 (to
> > allow for the 
> > compare function). In other words, a memory buffer
> > is provided for 
> > each enabled track. If any track exceeds this buffer
> > while 
> > recording, you get the out-of-memory situation.
> > 
> > Here's an example: Assuming starting with an empty
> > sequencer, if 16
> > tracks are enabled, you have (200,000/16)/2, or
> > 6,250 events per 
> > track. Some KARMA GEs generate large amounts of MIDI
> > data, when 
> > there are 3 or 4 different CCs being generated, in
> > addition to 
> > notes, pitch bend info, etc. 6,250 events is not all
> > that much, 
> > especially where KARMA is concerned. In some combis,
> > you could run 
> > out of memory after 48 bars or so. But this is
> > because ALL 16 TRACKS 
> > ARE RECORD ENABLED. If you copy a Combi into the
> > sequencer, at the 
> > most you will be recording the output of 4 KARMA
> > GEs, and maybe the 
> > keyboard sound. If you only enable the tracks that
> > are actually 
> > being used, you greatly increase the amount of
> > available memory for 
> > recording.
> > 
> > A quick fix is to disable tracks 9-16 (assuming you
> > copied a Combi to
> > tracks 1-8, or the other way around if you copied to
> > 9-16). In this 
> > case, you've doubled the amount of available memory
> > to 12,500 events 
> > per track. But let's say you then go look at the
> > channel routing 
> > assignments, and determine that you can turn off 4
> > other tracks that 
> > are not actually being used - you've now quadrupled
> > the available 
> > memory 25,000 events per track! Note that if you are
> > familiar with 
> > the Triton, this is not any different than the
> > Triton sequencer. One 
> > difference is that KARMA generates large amounts of
> > MIDI data, so 
> > your events can get eaten up more quickly than using
> > the Triton's 
> > arpeggiators, for example.
> > 
> > There are 2 places to check for MIDI routing:
> > (1) (3.1-1/2) [Menu]->[PRM1]->[MIDI...8] or
> > [MIDI..16]
> > 
> > Here you can see which MIDI Channels are assigned to
> > which tracks.
> > (2) (6.1-2) [Menu]->[KARM]->[MIDI I/O] Here you can
> > see which 
> > timbres (on which channels) are actually being sent
> > data from KARMA.
> > + Parameter Guide, Pages 82, 104. Let's take a
> > simple example. Combi 
> > A016: Earthy Groove. As you can see by looking in
> > both places, only 
> > tracks 1, 2 and 3 (receiving on channels 2, 3 & 4)
> > need to be 
> > enabled to record, because they are the only tracks
> > doing anything.
> > Another (more complex) example: Combi A000:==Voice
> > Of KARMA==
> > Using Method (2) above, we see that KARMA Modules
> > are generating on
> > timbres 4,5,6,7 & 8. Using Method (1) above we also
> > see that tracks 
> > 1, 2 & 3 are on Channel 1, to be played live.
> > However, here's 
> > another interesting thing: in this case, tracks 1,2
> > & 3 are all set 
> > to MIDI Channel 1 (this is the LH Pad sound and the
> > RH Lead Sound, 
> > configured with key zones into a split). Even with
> > multi track 
> > record on and all tracks enabled, when you play on
> > the keyboard the
> > system only records 1 track of data (on to track 1),
> > because the 
> > other tracks are set to the same channel. Tracks 2 &
> > 3 will record 
> > nothing. However, because they are record enabled,
> > they probably 
> > still eat up potential available memory. The same
> > thing goes with 
> > tracks 7 and 8 (the KARMA drum groove), which are
> > both receiving on 
> > MIDI Channel 5. Even if both of these are enabled,
> > data only gets 
> > recorded on the first one. So in this case, to
> > record just the KARMA 
> > output (and have the most memory available), enable
> > 4,5,6 and 7. To 
> > record the live keyboard parts along with it, just
> > additionally 
> > enable track 1.
> > 
> > If all this sounds complicated, just remember that
> > you don't have to 
> > do this unless you are having problems running out
> > of memory while
> > recording. Many of you may never run into this
> > problem."
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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