Re: Does anyone have Reincarnation volume 1

Thanks Eric - the point you raise is exactly what drove me to post 
my comments in the first place too - thanks for following this up.  
Aside from anything else, its crystal clear to all of us who have 
followed this forum over the years where & who to buy the soundsets 
from - and how our investment benefits our own music making and 
supports the guys creating the them in the first place to continue 
to develop and innovate.

Thanks for the inspirations - my latest tune "Theme 1 Karma" is on 
my page at 

http://www.myspace.com/qualifiedout 

watching these posts took me back to my Karma to kick off this live 
track also using my new X50 (playing sax & strings) - hope you like 
it. It may take up to 24 hrs to get loaded on the site.

Stephen - when are you going to make another set available to 
purchase, because we cant all afford OASYS's just yet ??!!

Eric - I'm still working through your EJAZZ set - its fab !

Cheers J.  


--- In [email protected], "EJ2 - Double EJ Projects" 
<doubleejprojects@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, yes you did!  Here is the quote of your first post:
> 
> "Hi,
> 
> I have been listening to the Reincarnation demo's on the Korg web-
site
> and some of the combi's are awesome!
> 
> Does anyone have a copy they would like to sell? If so drop me an
> email on r_rich167@...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> R."
> 
> Your second paragraph specifically asks if anyone has "... a copy 
they
> would like to sell..."  So, my "serving notice" is necessary if you
> think that you were not trying to obtain an "illegal" copy of
> Reincarnation.  End of discussion.
> Eric
> 
> --- In [email protected], "r_rich167" <r_rich167@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > If you read my previous post(s) then you will see that I am not 
trying
> >  to get hold of a pirate copy and have made no comments 
regarding the
> > support of pirating.  Your "serving notice" is noted but not 
necessary.
> > 
> > I just asked the question and now know the answer.  Although 
this may
> > have seemed a painful process I think that it has been worthwhile
> > because I am sure that most owners would not think of deleting 
all
> > banks other than A,B & E before selling (or lending) their Karma 
to
> > someone else.
> > 
> > R.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "EJ2 - Double EJ Projects"
> > <doubleejprojects@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rich,
> > >     At the bottom of my Orders and Policy page the License is 
clearly
> > > specified to the left of the no refund policy.
> > > http://2ej2.tripod.com/id4.html
> > > 
> > >    Obviously, the nature of software dictates that one 
shouldn't
> > > expect a refund. Anyone copying and redistributing the same 
will be
> > > liable to legal action and  recovery of deemed loss.  This is 
standard
> > > through out the computer software business.  Yes, there are
> > > unscruplous "pirates".  However, in this (Karma) community we 
really
> > > do take a serious offence to any suggestion of such piracy, 
resale, or
> > > redistribution, etc.... and that includes "giving" it away as 
part of
> > > a Karma sale.  That's a "no no" and the seller and buyer are 
putting
> > > themselves into a position of liability and legal action to 
recover
> > > real and/or estimated damages.
> > > 
> > > Factory banks A, B, and E do not need to be erased.  All other 
banks
> > > of PCGs, KGE (user GEs) etc. need to be cleared from memory.
> > > 
> > > As moderator of this yahoo group,  I am serving notice that 
any post
> > > supporting or lending assistance to the resale, 
redistribution, or
> > > illegal transfer of any 3rd party collections - PCGs, KGEs, 
KDFs (for
> > > Karma Triton) will be deleted and the poster banned.  There is 
no
> > > discussion in this matter - period.  Sorry for the heavy hand, 
but
> > > this matter is our bread and butter livelihood.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Eric
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "r_rich167" <r_rich167@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the response.
> > > > 
> > > > As you have a no refunds policy for software you should 
provide
> a link
> > > > to the license agreement so that people can make an informed
> decision.
> > > >  I have found that it is included in the user guide but 
there should
> > > > be a clear link on the relevent pages.
> > > > 
> > > > I am sure that most people have the expectation that when 
they
> come to
> > > > sell their Korg Karma they will also include any Karma 
specific
> > > > software they had bought for it.  According to your response 
this is
> > > > clearly not the case.  In fact if you sell you Karma you will
> need to
> > > > make sure you delete the contents of banks C,D,E & the user 
GE area
> > > > otherwise you will breach the software license.
> > > > 
> > > > R.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "karmalab140" <forms@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > > It is agreeable that "The license agreement does not 
allow
> anyone
> > > > to "sell
> > > > > > you a copy".". However, as I interpret it, the original 
version
> > > > could be
> > > > > > sold just like any other  piece of software and there 
would
> be no
> > > > > > infringement.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In fact, many pieces of software do not allow for the sale 
or
> > > > transference of the license.
> > > > > And did you actually read the license? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here is the pertinent section:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > THINGS YOU MAY NOT DO
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Software and Documentation are protected by United 
States
> > > > copyright laws and 
> > > > > international treaties. You must treat the Software and
> > > > Documentation like any other 
> > > > > copyrighted material--for example a book. You may not:
> > > > > - copy the Documentation, other than for your own use,
> > > > > - copy the Software except to make archival or backup 
copies as
> > > > provided above,
> > > > > - reverse engineer, disassemble, decompile or make any 
attempt to
> > > > discover the source 
> > > > > code of the Software,
> > > > > - place the Software onto a server so that it is 
accessible via a
> > > > pubic network such as the 
> > > > > Internet,
> > > > > - sell, sublicense, rent, lease or lend any portion of the
> Software
> > > > or Documentation, or 
> > > > > modified versions of the Software and Documentation,
> > > > >  - sell or transfer the rights provided to you hereunder to
> another
> > > > person, whether 
> > > > > through the use of services such as E-bay or any other 
means, or
> > > > > - create derivative works based on the Software.
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > 
> > > > > Seems pretty clear to me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not going to get into a big discussion about this, and 
the
> whole
> > > > issue of software 
> > > > > licenses, which some people love to argue about. I just 
wanted to
> > > > make people aware that 
> > > > > you can't sell a copy of Reincarnation/Chemistry according 
to the
> > > > license agreement. And 
> > > > > that if you want a copy of it, you should support the 
programming
> > > > efforts of the people 
> > > > > who developed it, and purchase a copy from them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Stephen Kay
> > > > > KARMA Developer
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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