Re: PC3K8 Going Out Of Tune

"danforcz [email protected] [KurzList]" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.music.equipment.kurzweil
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It's not easy but not impossible to find reason for such problems. Try to find some regular pattern in it - when it occurs? It can be thermally dependent, or occur after some glitch in power network or so…

If it occurs always irregularly without any detectable reason from the side of user, then I would open it, reseat (or even clean) all connectors inside, reseat all IC’s in sockets (especially OS Eprom if there’s such), clean and check both wheels, and if there’s a mechanical component for changing instrument pitch (VR or pot), clean and move with its setting more times, then return to proper tuning. The last thing for the case that whole instrument goes out of tune.

If only some layers in multi combination go out of tune, check the setting - maybe that have set pitch setting sensitivity to wheels, LFO, EG, pedal or other mechanical controllers… Again time for checking those controllers and cleaning them.

If this all doesn’t help, problem is probably in OS. Maybe you can burn new Eproms or reflash OS. I suppose there’s some kind of hidden test or diagnostics inside the machine, try to start it. There can be also something like soft or hard reset, maybe it will help. 

And there’s PSU, potential source of various problems if voltages are not on spec. Check this also. I don’t know how old is your instrument - older instruments often need to replace electrolytic capacitors...

Daniel Forro


> On Oct 9, 2018, at 13:05, 'David Berriman' [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [KurzList] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Thanks for the great comments.  It happened again tonight at rehearsal.  Tuning problems in the middle of a set.  With a show on Friday, I’m sweating bullets now.  This is crazy. 
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> You said modulation wheel and it might be that, but I wonder if it can be related to the pitch bend wheel also.  I THINK there may be correlation with using the pitch bend more than the modulation.  Maybe both? 
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> I had it looked at last year and the tech could find nothing wrong with it and I can’t detect any mechanical flaws in either wheel.  Maybe there is a setting problem within a “set-up”?
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> From: 'Laurence Payne'  <>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [KurzList]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 12:43 PM
> To:  <>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [KL] DEEP SPACE effect
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> A hang while booting can be caused by detected input from a controller.   Coupled with the detuning problem – I’d suggest you had a good look at the modulation wheel and the wiring/connectors around it.
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> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] 
> Sent: 03 October 2018 22:17
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KL] DEEP SPACE effect
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> Charlie et al, I love my PC3K8 but have had some weird things going on such as:
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> - suddenly it will detune certain programs with a set-up...strings will be flat, for example.  A shut down and restart of the keyboard solves the problem but takes almost a minute to complete.
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> - I have detected a slight “noise” coming from the outputs.  It’s subtle and not noticable in any live situation but there is definitely not a whisper clean output.  Something is going on and yes, I have used shielded, balanced cables.
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> - Once in a while, it will hangup during bootup and not even start up.  This has happened a few times, but evetually it will boot up, for some unknown reason.
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> I have wondered if any of these are “known issues” for the PC3K8.  I’m frustrated right now because there’s nothing worse than unreliability.  I took it in for service last year due to the start-up problem, but the tech, very experienced, could find nothing obviously wrong with it.
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> This is a puzzle and has me wanting something different, though I do love it when everything is operating as it’s supposed to.
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> Thanks.
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> David Berriman
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> From: Charlie Mann  <>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [KurzList] 
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 5:02 PM
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> To:  <>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KL] DEEP SPACE effect
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> Hi Iacopo,
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> It sounds like you've got a wonderful piano module. I went searching through YouTube to find a demo of the Deep Space effect, but I couldn't find anything that specifically showed how it affects the sound.
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> Perhaps you could upload a demo to YouTube to let the rest of us hear how it sounds?
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> I'd recommend using a PC3K8 for a keyboard controller. It's got great weighted keys and a full 88 key bed.
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> Charlie
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> On 10/1/18 7:59 AM,  <>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [KurzList] wrote:
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>>   hi,
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>> How are you?
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>> inside micropiano I found an effect called DEEP SPACE.
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>> it reminds me pink Floyd.
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>> could you help me to remind the song title?
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>> thanks
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>> Iacopo
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