Re: Re: Audio-2-Midi?

"John Abrams [email protected] [midiguitar]" <[email protected]> Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:21:32 -0700
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There's an Ibanez humbucker in the bridge position and that's all that's 
turned on.  They say to use only the bridge pickup and turn the tone all 
the way treble which is what I'm doing.  The lower the overtones, the 
better I'm thinking.  I'm thinking of hooking up the midi pickup on the 
one I have that's beyond repair and see what that does.  It would be 
like using a GK-2 pickup.

On 3/16/2018 1:03 PM, planeteleven [email protected] 
[midiguitar] wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, John, are you using single coils or humbucking 
> pickups?  My feeling is that any extra noise or hum is going to affect 
> the tracking results.
>
> - Lenny
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:15 PM, John Abrams [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [midiguitar] 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Tried it.  Their claims are correct.
>
>     I just built a dedicated PC to run Jam Origin.  I'm now running my
>     PG380's midi to one Roland synth and its straight pickup output
>     through the computer running Jam Origin to another Roland synth
>     and Jam Origin is almost perfect.  So much so that my GK's and
>     Axons and Roland converters, and everything else will be up for
>     sale soon. I've even run the PG380 through my POG down one octave
>     into Jam Origin's Bass Guitar Midi and it's almost perfect too. 
>     The setup's kind of bulky but I built the computer into a rack
>     case and it just flits into my rack.  I've modified the computer's
>     operating system to only run necessary processes and it's not
>     connected to the internet.  The input is a Tascam 2X2 and the midi
>     out is via M-Audio MIDISPORT straight into a Roland JV-1010. 
>     Being a computer engineer, I plan to build it all into one
>     portable box but for now, and just at home, it works just fine the
>     way it is.  I've never had anything better.
>
>     BTW, the software is $100 and the license is for as many computers
>     as you want as long as they belong to you.  You can even run the
>     program more than once on the same computer.  So I could have a
>     friend plugged into channel two of everything and both channels
>     would work.
>
>     This is only a semi-commercial product.  Its money comes from the
>     Danish Ministry of Science which funds worthy projects.  The lead
>     programmer is an artificial intelligence researcher and an expert
>     is Digital Signal Processing.  This setup reminds me of the old
>     Bell Labs.
>
>     The one caveat is, it doesn't work well with slinky strings.  In
>     fact I'm up to using 13-54's but that doesn't seem to be any
>     improvement over 11's and not much improvement over 10's but you
>     can't get away with 8's.  And you want to use the bridge pickup
>     only.  It works better, the purest tone you can give it.
>
>
>
>     On 3/16/2018 12:04 PM, JAMES HARRISON [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [midiguitar] wrote:
>>
>>
>>     It's not exactly what you're looking for but you might have a
>>     look at
>>     the videos for MIDI GUITAR 2 by JAM ORIGIN [I think]. It's 100%
>>     software though. It claims to convert all six guitar strings to midi
>>     with VERY low latency using only the standard guitar cord from a
>>     standard guitar output. The specifically state that you DO NOT
>>     need any
>>     kind of hex pickup.
>>
>>     The demo's are very impressive; but I haven't personally tried it.
>>
>>     Anybody here tried it?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     James L. Harrison
>>     ..
>>     ..
>>
>>     > Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > "Benoit Bouchez" benoitdmx
>>     > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F>
>>     <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F>
>>     >
>>     > Hello Michael,
>>     >
>>     > what you are looking for does not exist.
>>     >
>>     > It's technically impossible to recognize chords and polyphony
>>     from a
>>     > single audio source and generate the corresponding MIDI stream.
>>     > If such a thing would exist, there would be no need for a multiple
>>     > dedicated microphone for MIDI guitars
>>     >
>>     > Benoit
>>     >
>>     > Le 15/03/2018 09:19, 'Michael Peters' [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [midiguitar] a �crit :
>>     > >
>>     > > does anyone know if there is a fast, hardware based, polyphonic
>>     > > audio-2-midi converter? not for guitar, and I'm not
>>     interested in the
>>     > > new Roland guitar synths - I want a small dedicated box that
>>     does just
>>     > > that - input = audio, output = midi, with any kind of audio
>>     input.
>>     > >
>>     > > -Michael
>>
>
>
> 


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    There's an Ibanez humbucker in the bridge position and that's all
    that's turned on.  They say to use only the bridge pickup and turn
    the tone all the way treble which is what I'm doing.  The lower the
    overtones, the better I'm thinking.  I'm thinking of hooking up the
    midi pickup on the one I have that's beyond repair and see what that
    does.  It would be like using a GK-2 pickup.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/16/2018 1:03 PM, planeteleven
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [midiguitar] wrote:<br>
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              <div>Just out of curiosity, John, are you using single
                coils or humbucking pickups?  My feeling is that any
                extra noise or hum is going to affect the tracking
                results.<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              - Lenny<br>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:15 PM,
                John Abrams <a href="mailto:[email protected]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>
                [midiguitar] <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email protected]"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
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                          <p> Tried it.  Their claims are correct.  <br>
                            <br>
                            I just built a dedicated PC to run Jam
                            Origin.  I'm now running my PG380's midi to
                            one Roland synth and its straight pickup
                            output through the computer running Jam
                            Origin to another Roland synth and Jam
                            Origin is almost perfect.  So much so that
                            my GK's and Axons and Roland converters, and
                            everything else will be up for sale soon. 
                            I've even run the PG380 through my POG down
                            one octave into Jam Origin's Bass Guitar
                            Midi and it's almost perfect too.  The
                            setup's kind of bulky but I built the
                            computer into a rack case and it just flits
                            into my rack.  I've modified the computer's
                            operating system to only run necessary
                            processes and it's not connected to the
                            internet.  The input is a Tascam 2X2 and the
                            midi out is via M-Audio MIDISPORT straight
                            into a Roland JV-1010.  Being a computer
                            engineer, I plan to build it all into one
                            portable box but for now, and just at home,
                            it works just fine the way it is.  I've
                            never had anything better.<br>
                            <br>
                            BTW, the software is $100 and the license is
                            for as many computers as you want as long as
                            they belong to you.  You can even run the
                            program more than once on the same
                            computer.  So I could have a friend plugged
                            into channel two of everything and both
                            channels would work.<br>
                            <br>
                            This is only a semi-commercial product.  Its
                            money comes from the Danish Ministry of
                            Science which funds worthy projects.  The
                            lead programmer is an artificial
                            intelligence researcher and an expert is
                            Digital Signal Processing.  This setup
                            reminds me of the old Bell Labs.<br>
                            <br>
                            The one caveat is, it doesn't work well with
                            slinky strings.  In fact I'm up to using
                            13-54's but that doesn't seem to be any
                            improvement over 11's and not much
                            improvement over 10's but you can't get away
                            with 8's.  And you want to use the bridge
                            pickup only.  It works better, the purest
                            tone you can give it.  <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                          </p>
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                            class="m_-3102651384623446071moz-cite-prefix">On
                            3/16/2018 12:04 PM, JAMES HARRISON <a
                              class="m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="mailto:[email protected]"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>
                            [midiguitar] wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite"> <span> </span>
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                              <p><br>
                                It's not exactly what you're looking for
                                but you might have a look at <br>
                                the videos for MIDI GUITAR 2 by JAM
                                ORIGIN [I think]. It's 100% <br>
                                software though. It claims to convert
                                all six guitar strings to midi <br>
                                with VERY low latency using only the
                                standard guitar cord from a <br>
                                standard guitar output. The specifically
                                state that you DO NOT need any <br>
                                kind of hex pickup.<br>
                                <br>
                                The demo's are very impressive; but I
                                haven't personally tried it.<br>
                                <br>
                                Anybody here tried it?<br>
                                <br>
                                Thanks,<br>
                                James L. Harrison<br>
                                ..<br>
                                ..<br>
                                <br>
                                &gt; Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:44 am (PDT) .
                                Posted by:<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; "Benoit Bouchez" benoitdmx<br>
                                &gt; <a
                                  class="m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;mailto:benoit.bouchez@free.<wbr>fr?subject=Re%3A%20Audio-2-<wbr>Midi%3F&gt;</a><br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Hello Michael,<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; what you are looking for does not
                                exist.<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; It's technically impossible to
                                recognize chords and polyphony from a<br>
                                &gt; single audio source and generate
                                the corresponding MIDI stream.<br>
                                &gt; If such a thing would exist, there
                                would be no need for a multiple<br>
                                &gt; dedicated microphone for MIDI
                                guitars<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Benoit<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Le 15/03/2018 09:19, 'Michael
                                Peters' <a
                                  class="m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                  href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>
                                [midiguitar] a �crit :<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; does anyone know if there is a
                                fast, hardware based, polyphonic<br>
                                &gt; &gt; audio-2-midi converter? not
                                for guitar, and I'm not interested in
                                the<br>
                                &gt; &gt; new Roland guitar synths - I
                                want a small dedicated box that does
                                just<br>
                                &gt; &gt; that - input = audio, output =
                                midi, with any kind of audio input.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; -Michael<br>
                                <br>
                              </p>
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