Re: Re: Audio-2-Midi?

"planeteleven [email protected] [midiguitar]" <[email protected]> Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:03:24 -0400
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Just out of curiosity, John, are you using single coils or humbucking
pickups?  My feeling is that any extra noise or hum is going to affect the
tracking results.

- Lenny

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:15 PM, John Abrams [email protected]
[midiguitar] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Tried it.  Their claims are correct.
>
> I just built a dedicated PC to run Jam Origin.  I'm now running my PG380'=
s
> midi to one Roland synth and its straight pickup output through the
> computer running Jam Origin to another Roland synth and Jam Origin is
> almost perfect.  So much so that my GK's and Axons and Roland converters,
> and everything else will be up for sale soon.  I've even run the PG380
> through my POG down one octave into Jam Origin's Bass Guitar Midi and it'=
s
> almost perfect too.  The setup's kind of bulky but I built the computer
> into a rack case and it just flits into my rack.  I've modified the
> computer's operating system to only run necessary processes and it's not
> connected to the internet.  The input is a Tascam 2X2 and the midi out is
> via M-Audio MIDISPORT straight into a Roland JV-1010.  Being a computer
> engineer, I plan to build it all into one portable box but for now, and
> just at home, it works just fine the way it is.  I've never had anything
> better.
>
> BTW, the software is $100 and the license is for as many computers as you
> want as long as they belong to you.  You can even run the program more th=
an
> once on the same computer.  So I could have a friend plugged into channel
> two of everything and both channels would work.
>
> This is only a semi-commercial product.  Its money comes from the Danish
> Ministry of Science which funds worthy projects.  The lead programmer is =
an
> artificial intelligence researcher and an expert is Digital Signal
> Processing.  This setup reminds me of the old Bell Labs.
>
> The one caveat is, it doesn't work well with slinky strings.  In fact I'm
> up to using 13-54's but that doesn't seem to be any improvement over 11's
> and not much improvement over 10's but you can't get away with 8's.  And
> you want to use the bridge pickup only.  It works better, the purest tone
> you can give it.
>
>
>
> On 3/16/2018 12:04 PM, JAMES HARRISON [email protected] [midiguitar]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It's not exactly what you're looking for but you might have a look at
> the videos for MIDI GUITAR 2 by JAM ORIGIN [I think]. It's 100%
> software though. It claims to convert all six guitar strings to midi
> with VERY low latency using only the standard guitar cord from a
> standard guitar output. The specifically state that you DO NOT need any
> kind of hex pickup.
>
> The demo's are very impressive; but I haven't personally tried it.
>
> Anybody here tried it?
>
> Thanks,
> James L. Harrison
> ..
> ..
>
> > Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
> >
> >
> > "Benoit Bouchez" benoitdmx
> > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F>
> <[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F>
> >
> > Hello Michael,
> >
> > what you are looking for does not exist.
> >
> > It's technically impossible to recognize chords and polyphony from a
> > single audio source and generate the corresponding MIDI stream.
> > If such a thing would exist, there would be no need for a multiple
> > dedicated microphone for MIDI guitars
> >
> > Benoit
> >
> > Le 15/03/2018 09:19, 'Michael Peters' [email protected] [midiguitar] a
> =EF=BF=BDcrit :
> > >
> > > does anyone know if there is a fast, hardware based, polyphonic
> > > audio-2-midi converter? not for guitar, and I'm not interested in the
> > > new Roland guitar synths - I want a small dedicated box that does jus=
t
> > > that - input =3D audio, output =3D midi, with any kind of audio input=
..
> > >
> > > -Michael
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Just out of curiosity, John, are you using single coi=
ls or humbucking pickups?=C2=A0 My feeling is that any extra noise or hum i=
s going to affect the tracking results.<br><br></div>- Lenny<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 a=
t 3:15 PM, John Abrams <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">wjabrams@e=
arthlink.net</a> [midiguitar] <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:midig=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
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    Tried it.=C2=A0 Their claims are correct.=C2=A0 <br>
    <br>
    I just built a dedicated PC to run Jam Origin.=C2=A0 I&#39;m now runnin=
g my
    PG380&#39;s midi to one Roland synth and its straight pickup output
    through the computer running Jam Origin to another Roland synth and
    Jam Origin is almost perfect.=C2=A0 So much so that my GK&#39;s and Axo=
ns and
    Roland converters, and everything else will be up for sale soon.=C2=A0
    I&#39;ve even run the PG380 through my POG down one octave into Jam
    Origin&#39;s Bass Guitar Midi and it&#39;s almost perfect too.=C2=A0 Th=
e setup&#39;s
    kind of bulky but I built the computer into a rack case and it just
    flits into my rack.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve modified the computer&#39;s operatin=
g system
    to only run necessary processes and it&#39;s not connected to the
    internet.=C2=A0 The input is a Tascam 2X2 and the midi out is via M-Aud=
io
    MIDISPORT straight into a Roland JV-1010.=C2=A0 Being a computer
    engineer, I plan to build it all into one portable box but for now,
    and just at home, it works just fine the way it is.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve neve=
r had
    anything better.<br>
    <br>
    BTW, the software is $100 and the license is for as many computers
    as you want as long as they belong to you.=C2=A0 You can even run the
    program more than once on the same computer.=C2=A0 So I could have a
    friend plugged into channel two of everything and both channels
    would work.<br>
    <br>
    This is only a semi-commercial product.=C2=A0 Its money comes from the
    Danish Ministry of Science which funds worthy projects.=C2=A0 The lead
    programmer is an artificial intelligence researcher and an expert is
    Digital Signal Processing.=C2=A0 This setup reminds me of the old Bell
    Labs.<br>
    <br>
    The one caveat is, it doesn&#39;t work well with slinky strings.=C2=A0 =
In
    fact I&#39;m up to using 13-54&#39;s but that doesn&#39;t seem to be an=
y
    improvement over 11&#39;s and not much improvement over 10&#39;s but yo=
u
    can&#39;t get away with 8&#39;s.=C2=A0 And you want to use the bridge p=
ickup
    only.=C2=A0 It works better, the purest tone you can give it.=C2=A0 <br=
>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    </p><div class=3D"m_-3102651384623446071moz-cite-prefix">On 3/16/2018 1=
2:04 PM, JAMES HARRISON
      <a class=3D"m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [mid=
iguitar] wrote:<br>
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            <p><br>
              It&#39;s not exactly what you&#39;re looking for but you migh=
t
              have a look at <br>
              the videos for MIDI GUITAR 2 by JAM ORIGIN [I think]. It&#39;=
s
              100% <br>
              software though. It claims to convert all six guitar
              strings to midi <br>
              with VERY low latency using only the standard guitar cord
              from a <br>
              standard guitar output. The specifically state that you DO
              NOT need any <br>
              kind of hex pickup.<br>
              <br>
              The demo&#39;s are very impressive; but I haven&#39;t persona=
lly
              tried it.<br>
              <br>
              Anybody here tried it?<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              James L. Harrison<br>
              ..<br>
              ..<br>
              <br>
              &gt; Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; &quot;Benoit Bouchez&quot; benoitdmx<br>
              &gt;
              <a class=3D"m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20Audio-2-Midi%3F" target=
=3D"_blank">&lt;mailto:benoit.bouchez@free.<wbr>fr?subject=3DRe%3A%20Audio-=
2-<wbr>Midi%3F&gt;</a><br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Hello Michael,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; what you are looking for does not exist.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; It&#39;s technically impossible to recognize chords and
              polyphony from a<br>
              &gt; single audio source and generate the corresponding
              MIDI stream.<br>
              &gt; If such a thing would exist, there would be no need
              for a multiple<br>
              &gt; dedicated microphone for MIDI guitars<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Benoit<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Le 15/03/2018 09:19, &#39;Michael Peters&#39; <a class=
=3D"m_-3102651384623446071moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:mp@mpete=
rs.de" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>
              [midiguitar] a =EF=BF=BDcrit :<br>
              &gt; &gt;<br>
              &gt; &gt; does anyone know if there is a fast, hardware
              based, polyphonic<br>
              &gt; &gt; audio-2-midi converter? not for guitar, and I&#39;m
              not interested in the<br>
              &gt; &gt; new Roland guitar synths - I want a small
              dedicated box that does just<br>
              &gt; &gt; that - input =3D audio, output =3D midi, with any
              kind of audio input.<br>
              &gt; &gt;<br>
              &gt; &gt; -Michael<br>
              <br>
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